Shrine WIP updated

Richard · 7 Oct 2010, 20:21

Nice work OLi.

Mate I like the structure, though the lower level outriggers I'm finding are taking something away from the overall! I'd also love to see a finer edge detail where the sheets and posts meet, maybe even the sheeted sections being dual skinned to incorporate the posts and not separate so to speak.

Remember all said we see things how they effect us, so the above is not a crit!

olishea · 7 Oct 2010, 20:31

its for a mini competition, i've only had a couple of days so i'm really not gonna slave on too many details. its more of an exercise this project, to get us all back into design again (most of us have just spent a year in practice being monkeys)

yeah i know what you mean about the "oars"! may review that...

michaliszissiou · 7 Oct 2010, 21:21

OLI

Tuned!

pilou · 8 Oct 2010, 01:09

Indian cathedral over the river

ken28875 · 8 Oct 2010, 03:25

Very cool design, Oli. I like it a lot.

Looking forward to seeing the final renders.

Good luck!

_KN

olishea · 8 Oct 2010, 21:57

added three renders to original post, may do a few more.

d12dozr · 8 Oct 2010, 22:34

Those renders are excellent, Oli

dermotcoll · 9 Oct 2010, 09:05

Oli

They are amazing renders - will this be built if you win? Good Luck!!

TIG · 9 Oct 2010, 09:33

I think that your renders are excellent.

Your design is more 'Native-American_meets_Constructivist' than the locale's 'Italianate' theme... but then it is 'stand-alone' AND Portmerion is big enough to take it anyway [after all their own newly refurbished 30's restaurant, their [in]famous concrete-boat moored in the harbor and other whimsical touches here and there are not exactly 'in keeping' either]...

I was in Portmerion last year, and walked around the very spots you show in your photos.
It really is a 'magical place'. I really recommend everyone to go there. I stayed for a few days, in 'Fountain' - the quiet little flat overlooking the bay - where Noel Coward stayed in 1941 to escape the London Blitz, and to write Blithe Spirit [in just five days] - they had changed the sheets!

olishea · 9 Oct 2010, 15:47

cheers guys! was a nightmare getting the hdri to be the right scale. In twilight you can only rotate it, so i had to do lots of Photoshop back and forth. basically if you place a large black border round a spherical image it will shrink it in your render (make the hdri look further away)....although this was actually a 14000 pixel wide jpeg.

TIG, its funny you should say that...
I had to deeply justify why exactly it was in this style. I took immediate inspiration from the oriental aspect of this "temple pond", the red pavilion, the bridge. It was about reinforcing those connections Ellis has made throughout Portmeirion....obstructions, framing, seduction, scale, illusion....i felt they became lost at this point. People talk about Portmeiron as a journey, not really a destination so thats kind how I justified using this particular site. I place to stop, contemplate and reflect (perhaps) on the artistic lives of the Ellis family. Ellis seemed to borrow architectural features from a variety of sources; Georgian, Italian renaissance, oriental (the big Buddha LOL), he gave this site an oriental style and I didn't want to break too far from that. I could, of course, have placed a replica Shinto temple spanning the pond....but it wasn't about copying. I took inspiration from Shinmei Zukuri shrines, but added a lightweight and asymmetric style. Maybe its self-important, I dunno, but it was quite fun to make! I kinda need to take the concept further though. A shrine isn't just about its destination, its the journey, so i need to make some cues and connections along the way somehow.

Dermot I won't win they are looking for a pastiche mockery i think! but no i don't think the winner will get anything built, its more like an experiment.

D-space · 9 Oct 2010, 16:00

Awesome work Oli! Amazing!

michaliszissiou · 9 Oct 2010, 19:07

oli,

olishea · 12 Oct 2010, 21:54

thanks guys! it got good feedback (as in I didn't get my head bitten off for a change!) I hate university crits, so intense!

Fletch · 12 Oct 2010, 23:02

great project/great images to explain it, Oli!
It's so nice for school these days to have Photo-realistic rendering to help explain an idea, some times I think several projects I had in school would have critted much better if I had renderings like these to explain what I was going for.

anyway - It's great to hear that crits are tough in school... I have been on many critique panels at different schools and these past few years have found they are getting so watered down that you can't even critique a student any more. any comment perceived as negative, and the other students jump all over you, or I had a friend (excellent designer with more than 20yrs experience and many award-winning designs) who was asked not to return because he had 'offended' a student.

I mainly posted to say it's good to hear the crits are tough... trust me (as a once teacher and student with tough crits) - it's a good thing... and today with laser cutters and photo-real renderings at the touch of a button, you really get to concentrate on design.