[Plugin] V-Ray Tools

sadyo · 14 Sept 2010, 10:00

15-20minutes???
Does it do that if it loads normally?

No Mr.Thom, when i was use SU7, VRay just need 5-10 second to loads with VRayToys
I'm with Win XP Pro SP3 and using VRay 1.48.89, Do i have to re-install my VRay?

thomthom · 14 Sept 2010, 10:06

I'm confused now.

sadyo · 14 Sept 2010, 10:11

@thomthom said:

I'm confused now.

Oh no.... is there anything i should do

iqbal.ai · 26 Oct 2010, 12:45

hai,
can i know.. this ruby for .....?

retep37 · 6 Dec 2010, 19:53

@thomthom said:

Updated to make Load on Demand compatible with the new VfSU release.

When using VfSU 1.48.66 or newer - you can now enable or disable VfSU from Preferences -> Extensions in SketchUp.
But that will enable VfSU for all SU sessions. If you want to enable VfSU in just one session then use V-Ray Toys->Start V-Ray.

Thank you for creating the updated script. This is working for me on SU 8 with V-Ray 01.48.89. Does anyone know of a method to disable VfSU automatically (without having to go into Preferences -> Extensions)? I know this is a one time step, however I may be using V-Ray Toys in a company environment to offer the option of loading V-Ray upon demand. I am looking for a way to have the default state of SU 8 such that it will NOT load V-Ray. This was possible under SU 7 as one could simply rename the ruby script file to ".disabled". It seems that the way scripts load are a bit different under SU 8. If anyone knows of the file or registry location where the information regarding the disabled extension is being stored in SU 8 I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Peter

thomthom · 6 Dec 2010, 20:26

1.2 of this plugin works with VfSU 1.48.xx. Disable VfSU under extensions and you can use this plugin to load it. That is how I got my environment set up.

(I need to update the description.)

retep37 · 6 Dec 2010, 20:53

Yes, it absolutely works. Thanks for creating it and keeping it up to date.

Semi-related to V-Ray Toys, does anyone know of a way to disable V-Ray for SU prior to first launch of the software? Manually disabling VfSU in extensions must obviously change something that I may be able to replicate on another machine...prefs file, registry, etc. Thanks if anyone knows.

retep37 · 6 Dec 2010, 22:47

Found it, if anyone else is ever interested. This information is stored on a per user basis in the current user key of the registry:

[HKEY_USERS..........................\Software\Google\SketchUp8\Extensions]
"Dynamic Components"=dword:00000001
"Sandbox Tools2.0"=dword:00000001
"Solar North Toolbar1.0.0"=dword:00000001
"Photo Textures1.0.0"=dword:00000001
"Ruby Script Examples"=dword:00000000
"Ocean Modeling"=dword:00000000
"Utilities Tools"=dword:00000000
"V-Ray For SketchUp1.48.89"=dword:00000000

In a quick test, pre-populating the registry with a zero value for the V-Ray extension does stop it from loading upon first open of SU. This has the same effect as going to Windows > Preferences > Extensions and turning it off. A little thing, but could be useful, especially if someone is trying to prevent V-Ray for SU from loading on many computers.

halroach · 31 Jan 2011, 12:41

@thomthom said:

1.2 of this plugin works with VfSU 1.48.xx. Disable VfSU under extensions and you can use this plugin to load it. That is how I got my environment set up.

(I need to update the description.)

The way you have it set up - the plugin works well. (with vfsi disabled under preferences)

If you leave the vfsu extension checked to load under preferences - it loads the toolbar, and only some parts of vray work. I have to kind of re-load it again by using the vray toys to get everything to work fine.

I also can't uncheck the "Load V-Ray on demand" in any scenario.

Thanks for the plugin!

thomthom · 31 Jan 2011, 12:47

@unknownuser said:

If you leave the vfsu extension checked to load under preferences - it loads the toolbar, and only some parts of vray work.

I'm not seeing that. If the VfSU extension is set to load it loads VfSU normally - as it should.

@unknownuser said:

I also can't uncheck the "Load V-Ray on demand" in any scenario.

Yea, that is a wee bug due to they way it used to work. Shouldn't matter.

retep37 · 13 Feb 2011, 15:59

thomthom,

I have been testing V-Ray Toys 1.2.0 with V-Ray 1.48.89 and Sketchup 8.0.4811 (the latest.) V-Ray and Sketchup are working; however we are seeing some delays with V-Ray loading that seem to be worse with more complex SKP files. Earlier in the thread, “sadyo” mentioned seeing delays of 15 - 20 minutes and while I am not seeing anything that severe, perhaps their experience is related to mine. I am not sure how much the delays are specifically related to V-Ray Toys, but either way I think you may be able to help (or at least explain what is occurring.)

With just a blank SKP loaded from the template it takes V-Ray about 6 - 10 seconds to finish loading. (I should say that the V-Ray toolbar appears immediately, but that Sketchup cannot be used until after the 6 - 10 second time period. These seems normal to me.)

With complex SKP files I have seen V-Ray take anywhere from 30 seconds to 2 minutes to load. I am thinking that perhaps this is unrelated to V-Ray Toys and simply that V-Ray needs to analyze materials or other apsects of the SKP file before being "ready" for use. (I am not sure that this experience is normal. One of my co-workers mentioned it took V-Ray 3 - 4 minutes to load for a SKP file, but I have not been able to duplicate a time such as that.)

Any thoughts on what is "normal" in this regard?

thomthom · 14 Feb 2011, 09:16

VfSU is slow to load. I disable the extension from Window > Preferences > Extensions - that way it doesn't load when SU loads. I then use V-Ray Toys to load it on demand.

retep37 · 14 Feb 2011, 18:17

Agreed, it is slow to load and loading on demand is useful. Do you find that the time it takes V-Ray to load (either by demand or not) can vary based on the complexity of the SKP file being opened? Just wondering if seeing one minute or longer on some files for V-Ray to load is normal. (Also, I do not remember as much as a delay on earlier versions...)

thomthom · 14 Feb 2011, 18:19

Yes, bigger/more complex files load slower. And I get the feeling that if you open a model from an older VfSU version it adds even more load time. (Though this is a one time thing because it'd updating the project.)

milkshark · 9 Mar 2011, 06:11

Awesome Plugin!!

focpt · 11 Mar 2011, 14:23

ThomThom,

First of all, thank you for all your hard work on plugins. Really great stuff.

I'm having trouble with V-Ray Toys. I have SU8, with the latest VfSU 1.48xxx. I did the following:

Unchecked Vray from preferences.
Closed SU
Copied Vray toys into plugin folder.
Opened SU
Used Vray drop down to start VRay.

However there is no Vray Toys tool bar anywhere. Also, when I close SU I get a bugsplat. Any ideas?

I'm really just interested in the camer sync option right now. Is there a way to use that ruby only? Or some way to manually sync the cameras.

Cheers,
Nathan

thomthom · 11 Mar 2011, 15:16

@focpt said:

However there is no Vray Toys tool bar anywhere.

The V-Ray Toys toolbar should be available before loading V-Ray. From the View > Toolbar menu.
Did you mean the V-Ray for SketchUp toolbar? (if so - do you get errors when you try to start V-Ray?)

@focpt said:

Also, when I close SU I get a bugsplat. Any ideas?

Never experienced this. You don't get this without V-Ray Toys?

thomthom · 11 Mar 2011, 16:13

There has been some issues reported when users don't have admin rights. Or full access rights to SU's folder. Could very well be it.
Do you see a Compatibility Files button when you browse the Plugins folder?

focpt · 11 Mar 2011, 16:15

@thomthom said:

@focpt said:

However there is no Vray Toys tool bar anywhere.

The V-Ray Toys toolbar should be available before loading V-Ray. From the View > Toolbar menu.

Did you mean the V-Ray for SketchUp toolbar? (if so - do you get errors when you try to start V-Ray?)

@focpt said:

Also, when I close SU I get a bugsplat. Any ideas?

Never experienced this. You don't get this without V-Ray Toys?

Ahhh, don't know why I didn't check the view>toolbar menu... it was late. I'll try again tonight.

No I don't. Do I need to change permissions on my programs>google>su folder? When I copy paste plugins it asks for permissions (windows vista).

Thanks

bagatelo · 22 Mar 2011, 11:21

I was wondering if it would be possible to change this plugin to control the automatic start of any other plugins such as the 1001 bit tools, or some other little tools that we don't use often. That would make the start Sketchup faster. So by default, would start with the Sketchup few essential plugins.