Make wall component or group then component?

jacm

I am at the the start of "take 2" which is now being called 'our house1', 'our house' is going to be my backup as I progress. I have been studying 'outliner' and now going to include it with groups/components, hopfully I'll get it right. If not I can go to my back up and try something different.

I think I understand what 'outliner' does, if not I'll use my imperial testing to try things out.
What I've found when I completed the ground floor 'faces' for walls,(2D),just before I make the ground floor hieght (7ft 6ins). I made all the edges and faces, (2D), and thought I made a component as eveerything went according to plan i.e. dislog box - named them 'grd floor wall', 'create', hit return and decided to check. I found that all the walls edges and faces where still individual items so I selected group which made them as one. I them imediately selected 'component' and it remained the same without a 'create'. When I first made them 'group' and checked it showed 'edit group' them made 'component' and came 'edit component'. But on this second trial it didn't ask 'create'. I hope I have made this clear.

I tried to send the file but now I'm getting " The extension skb is not allowed". I don't know whats going on, its confusing. I passed things up before and no problems but today it decided that I've done something wrong!
John

John

mitcorb

Creating a component directly from a group always does this. You are not presented the dialogue window to formally name it. Simply select the new component, right click, select Entity Info, and there should be a couple of data boxes you can fill in. Now you should be able to formally name it.
The .skb is a temporary backup file. You must select the .skp file for uploading and editing. You only use a .skb file after a system crash and the last .skp was corrupted.

Now, educate me.
I thought in Britain everyone used metric?
Is 7'6" a standard ceiling height?
What would be the standard door height?

Chris Fullmer

.skb is a sketchup backup file. You want to be attaching the .skp file. Then it will attach smoothly,

Chris

jacm

@mitcorb said:

Creating a component directly from a group always does this. You are not presented the dialogue window to formally name it. Simply select the new component, right click, select Entity Info, and there should be a couple of data boxes you can fill in. Now you should be able to formally name it.
The .skb is a temporary backup file. You must select the .skp file for uploading and editing. You only use a .skb file after a system crash and the last .skp was corrupted.

Now, educate me.
I thought in Britain everyone used metric?
Is 7'6" a standard ceiling height?
What would be the standard door height?

Thats another thing I will have to try and understand, I seem to answer 1 problem but it also comes back with 2 questions - again.
Yes, britain has gone metric and had to turn to metric like everybody else. But when I retired I drifted back to imperial which was compfortable to work. I should have gone ahead with metric but it is to late with my 1st project when I had already started.
The majority of "old" houses where 8 feet (2.44M) to ceiling. The same goes with doors, they where 6ft 6 inches (1.98M) by 2ft 6ins (0.76M). When you go to a timer merchant they would probably 6ft and 9ft planks, now they sell 2.4M planks.
When we moved into our newly built home ofcourse the ceilings where 2.3Metres in hieght.
Thats how I found things over the years but a professional builder might say something different.

John

jacm

@chris fullmer said:

.skb is a sketchup backup file. You want to be attaching the .skp file. Then it will attach smoothly,

Chris

Thanks Chris
I spotted the mistake I made -skb, skp, I didn't notice.

John

TIG

As a side note about 'Units'...
Since Sketchup models stuff in "real size" it doesn't actually matter what Units the Model Info is set to, you can always change it part way through or simply enter dimensions in another unit-type at any time...
So for example, if you started off with your model units set as "feet & inches" then you'd enter something like 7'6" etc, but it's no problem to change the model to 'metric' part way through and then the 7'6" would be shown as 2286mm in dimensions etc !
Or let's assume you have a 'metric' model and want to make a wall that's exactly 7'6" high... then no need to convert your unit settings for that one-off dimension [or even to use a calculator] when you enter the dimension in say the pushpull or line tool simply do it in feet & inches [7'6"] and it'll be made that dimension even though the model is officially 'metric'... Conversely, on a 'feet & inches' model where you want something exactly 1.2 metres long, then just type in 1.2m [or 1200mm] and it'll adjust to suit in imperial units [~47.244"]...
To learn SUp the best may is 'doing' - learn by your 'mistakes'... SUp is pretty forgiving and we are here to help...

jacm

Hi Tig
I appreciate your explanation. It is when I measured the house I was compfortable with imperial as that is what I grew up with. But England and my job went metric and I got along fine with it. As I retired 6 years ago and found SU thats when I decided I would model my house. "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" is half right. In work I used metric quite easily and had no problems. But the regular door, window, etc.,sizes I could "see" in my head if they where wrong especially when They where out slightly. But if it was metric its not so obvious so I have to measure it exactly, and keep doing this, (which I would get to know like imperial), i'd have no problem. But the trouble is I am new to SU so I make a load of mistakes which takes time to correct. Thats why, at the moment, I'll stick to imperial.

I glad it doesn't matter what it is as long as it comes out OK. But I will go back to metric - honest.

Thanks for your reply
John