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      tomislavm
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      My God,it looks fantastic, unbeleivable. For me You are the master, how long did You make it?

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        ScottPara
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        This is a perfect example of a highly detailed model and taking the time to get things right and not rushing things through only to post your work. The attention to detail is fantastic to say the least.

        Scott

        Love the fact that some HATE my avatar.....

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          Anssi
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          Martin,

          I run out of superlatives.

          Now you can make an animated version of Brideshead Revisited...

          Anssi

          securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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            Fletch
            last edited by

            Stunning model! I hope you leveraged the use of components in this one! Seems like if it was done right, it would be a big file, but no 80Mb...
            but who am I to judge?! I've never built a castle like that! πŸ˜†

            I'm sure if you showed what you've done to people that care about the castle you would find it of great importance to them. πŸ˜‰ If they're in the mood to think, or listen.

            guessing SU2KT could export this to Kerkythea, and you can use layered/procedural textures with it, and instancing brush for vegetation... and it's free.

            Fletch
            Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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              MartinPh
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              Hm, no, unfortunately. Attempts to export this to Kerkythea only make SU crash. That's why I opt for renderers that work inside SU.

              You are undoubtedly right though that a little more work on thorough use of components would reduce the file size... I tend to be a bit lax in that way, bad, bad habit... Not that I would expect such a 'cleanup' to solve the export problem, I'm afraid my system simply isn't up to the task.

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                Al Hart
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                @martinph said:

                As far as I've been able to see iRender unfortunately doesn't do AO. I'm still hoping ASGVIS will finally come up with a decent patch for their new, incredibly buggy Vray, which has been sitting on my PC unused for over a month now because it crashes every time I try to render this model. I would be very curious to see what VRAY makes of this!

                Ambient occlusion is a technique used to "fake" indirect lighting in renderers which do not offer this feature. Typically, engines like Maxwell, Kerkythea, or IRender nXt do not use this because they offer "true" indirect lighting. Some engines offer the choice of indirect lighting or ambient occlusion ( ambient occlusion is faster, but much less correct).

                For IRender nXt, you should use the "Gather/Exterior" indirect lighting setting to get a similar result, using actual indirect lighting.

                Al Hart

                http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                  MartinPh
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                  For those of you who are intererested, here are a few examples of the reference material I used. Vitruvius Britannicus is an excellent source, offering complete plans and elevations as well as, in this case, a famous and spectacular birds eye view. Still, modeling the thing soon made it clear that the drawings are not consistent among each other, so at times I had to improvise. There are no lateral views or views of inside courtyards in VB, so for those I relied on a visit, on photographs and even on scenes from the Brideshead Revisited TV-series (excellent!) and movie (awful!).

                  Jon, I envy you! I have traveled quite extensively but still consider Howard and its environs to be the most beautiful place I've ever been...


                  Castle_Howard_plan.jpg


                  Castle_Howard_Vit_Brit2.jpg


                  Castle_Howard_Vit_Brit3.jpg

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                    ken28875
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                    Wow, awesome model! πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                    I would suggest you play with the camera/field of view to get some more interesting/dramatic views.

                    Have a nice one!

                    _KN

                    Follow Your Dreams.

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                      Fletch
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                      hmm... too bad about the component leveraging... as it also makes for much faster model processing and rendering and better RAM usage... maybe keep it in mind for your next monster project. πŸ˜„

                      well, it's a pain, I'm sure, but you can export different sectors of the model, north wing, south wing, etc, then merge them all together in one big model in KT... but it should (KT) handle the polys just fine.

                      People do this all the time, usually its a matter of separating furniture from architecture... but in your case could be castle "wings". πŸ˜‰

                      Fletch
                      Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                        Glenn at home
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                        This model needs to be the response that people get when they say that SU is not a professional tool! Excellent job. πŸ‘

                        SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

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                          Sir
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                          amazing

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                            dermotcoll
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                            Absolutely stunning modelling. I am totally blown away by the sheer size of this project. Very very well done

                            πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘

                            When you burn your arse - you gotta sit on the blisters!!

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                              TIG Moderator
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                              Fantastic modeling... Hats off ! 😍

                              History lesson; 'Castle Howard' is a wonderful example of an architectural masterpiece that was not designed by an architect - [Sir] John Vanburgh was a dilettante, playwright and stage-set designer etc - who only got the job after the rejection of initial designs by the respected architect William Talman, because Vanburgh's pal, and luckily the client, Charles Howard [3rd Earl of Carlisle] was a member of the his club - the 'Kit-Cat Club' !
                              [A ''kit-kat / 'club' is now a definitely [one or two] good chocolate-bars to most Brits and probably conjures up a seedy strip-joint to most Yanks... 🀣 ]
                              To continue... Vanburgh had some great ideas... but let's not forget that he was 'assisted' by Nicholas Hawksmoor [as he also was at Blenheim Palace]... who knew what he was doing since he had worked with Wren*.........
                              In Colvin's words, "[Hawksmoor] enabled Vanbrugh's heroic designs to be translated into actuality."
                              i.e. Hawksmoor got Vanburgh out of the s**t !!!

                              Additionally, don't forget that Sir Christopher *Wren was actually a mathematician cum surveyor who turned out to be one of England's best 'architects' - although I'm always a bit suspicious of how quickly he came up with the new master-plan for London after it burnt down in the 'Great Fire' of 1666 - even with CAD we'd've been hard pressed to turn that out so quickly... did they search him for matches ??? πŸ˜‰

                              TIG

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                                Fletch
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                                @tig said:

                                ...to turn that out so quickly... did they search him for matches ??? πŸ˜‰

                                πŸ˜† (sorry to go off topic momentarily...) Thanks for the bit of history TIG! πŸ‘ I love this stuff.

                                No, I'm actually positive there were several plans already laid for London before the burning. Most large cities have master plans, even at that time, city planning was a big deal. But that his was chosen over others, there's something to ponder... doubtless much politics involved... same deal now... just look at politics around 1 World Trade today 🀒 πŸ˜’

                                Fletch
                                Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                  IdahoJ
                                  last edited by

                                  An amazing piece of work. A wonderful example of what can be achieved with research, diligence and just plain "work a bit at it every day" kind of work. Very nice!

                                  Cheers!

                                  "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."

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                                    jamalito
                                    last edited by

                                    By the way
                                    I do not have any comment until I would say my comment
                                    This design is wonderful
                                    I have two questions
                                    How many years you had worked on this design? πŸ˜†
                                    What is the program that you used in Render?

                                    Albert Einstein:
                                    ((I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.))

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                                      Fletch
                                      last edited by

                                      your questions are answered in his first post. πŸ˜†

                                      Fletch
                                      Twilight Render Cross-platform Plugin for SketchUp on PC or Mac

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                                      • Al HartA Offline
                                        Al Hart
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                                        @jamalito said:

                                        What is the program that you used in Render?

                                        IRender nXt and nXtRender are two versions of the nXt rendering engine integrated into SketchUp. take a look at: IRender nXt

                                        Al Hart

                                        http:wiki.renderplus.comimageseefRender_plus_colored30x30%29.PNG
                                        IRender nXt from Render Plus

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                                          MartinPh
                                          last edited by

                                          I've been experimenting a bit with field of view, and played around in Photoshop with the result. I need to do something about the glass material, it doesn't look very good...

                                          http://imgur.com/IFbvz.jpg

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                                            notareal
                                            last edited by

                                            A grand project! Last render needs environmental reflections for windows and a perspective control lens (shift). Also perhaps instanced grass and displaced gravel. DOF feels a bit unnatural, is that post pro?

                                            Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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