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    • dkendigD Offline
      dkendig
      last edited by

      This post definitely threw me off a bit. I was very worried that something had gone terribly wrong. After thinking about this for a bit, and discussing it further with one of the guys here in the office, we have figured out the cause of this behavior. This is actually expected behavior. The larger a light source is, the more rays it will cast, and the more it will effect the scene. If you had a plane with an emissive material applied to it, it would behave the same way. The intensity of the emissive material wouldn't change, but the influence it has on the scene would. I hope that makes sense.

      Devin Kendig
      Developer

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      • thomthomT Offline
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        πŸ‘ Yes - thanks for clearing that up.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          tomot
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          self explanatory!


          lights3.png

          [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
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            tomot
            last edited by

            SU v 7.1.6860
            VRayForSketchUp-1.48.67-windows-installer

            Once again this is thomthom's file rotated to view the back side of the 2 boxes.

            Rendering setting for attached pic:

            Global Switches: all Headings under Lighting: OFF
            Indirect Illumination: OFF
            Camera: Standard:
            Settings Environment: Both OFF

            (SU shadow on or off makes no diff to rendered image)

            Unless I'm missing other settings in Vray:
            Why is the SU shadow still illuminating the rendered Vray Scene?


            lights4.png

            [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              @tomot said:

              @thomthom said:

              :thumb: Yes - thanks for clearing that up.

              I like small simple scenes thomthom πŸ˜„ After a simple copy & paste. I added 1 IES light to each box as shown in the pic. I also removed the light planes from the 3 IES light boxes prior to rendering. The attached pic clearly shows a number of unintended results.

              I've not had too much experience with IES - but from what I understand the result from them can vary greatly from IES to IES. But you mention you set the IES lights to 5000lm and 10000lm - but there is no lumens light unit for IES lights. You have only the Power property to adjust the intensity of what the IES is set up to be.

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                @tomot said:

                self explanatory!

                ? I'm not really sure what you mean by this. The burned out right cube? If that's the case - and you did not adjust the intensity when you turned off Physical Camera then that is normal. With physical camera you need a lot more light. So when you turn it off you must adjust accordingly.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  @tomot said:

                  SU v 7.1.6860
                  VRayForSketchUp-1.48.67-windows-installer

                  Once again this is thomthom's file rotated to view the back side of the 2 boxes.

                  Rendering setting for attached pic:

                  Global Switches: all Headings under Lighting: OFF
                  Indirect Illumination: OFF
                  Camera: Standard:
                  Settings Environment: Both OFF

                  (SU shadow on or off makes no diff to rendered image)

                  Unless I'm missing other settings in Vray:
                  Why is the SU shadow still illuminating the rendered Vray Scene?

                  Default Lights? Is that on?

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    tomot
                    last edited by

                    @thomthom said:

                    @tomot said:

                    SU v 7.1.6860
                    VRayForSketchUp-1.48.67-windows-installer

                    Once again this is thomthom's file rotated to view the back side of the 2 boxes.

                    Rendering setting for attached pic:

                    Global Switches: all Headings under Lighting: OFF

                    yes! that's what I said, and here is the pic.


                    global.png

                    [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                    tomot

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                      tomot
                      last edited by

                      @thomthom said:

                      @tomot said:

                      @thomthom said:

                      :thumb: Yes - thanks for clearing that up.

                      I like small simple scenes thomthom πŸ˜„ After a simple copy & paste. I added 1 IES light to each box as shown in the pic. I also removed the light planes from the 3 IES light boxes prior to rendering. The attached pic clearly shows a number of unintended results.

                      I've not had too much experience with IES - but from what I understand the result from them can vary greatly from IES to IES. But you mention you set the IES lights to 5000lm and 10000lm - but there is no lumens light unit for IES lights. You have only the Power property to adjust the intensity of what the IES is set up to be.

                      I made a mistake! the picture was showing Spotlights, not IES lights. I have now edited the picture information 😳

                      [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                      tomot

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                        tomot
                        last edited by

                        @thomthom said:

                        :thumb: Yes - thanks for clearing that up.

                        I like small simple scenes thomthom πŸ˜„ After a simple copy & paste. I added 1spotlight to each box as shown in the pic. I also removed the light planes from the light boxes prior to rendering. The attached pic clearly shows a number of unintended results.

                        thomthom is had to edit my previous post, and picture information. I hope this might attract a better response. 😳


                        lumens.png

                        [my plugins](http://thingsvirtual.blogspot.ca/)
                        tomot

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                          nomeradona
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                          i tested this one again and again tomot including the old version. so it seems to me its a bug, whilst i reported that to the beta testing section of asgvis.

                          visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                          • john2J Offline
                            john2
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                            this bug is still there? i'm using 1.49.01 πŸ˜• there is still a slight difference.


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