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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      I've looked at these and they are made in weird ways...
      They are very faceted, with some overlapping and reversed faces, edges 'hidden' - even have many 'edges' that won't show in any type of view - including Hidden Geometry 'on' because edges are 'off' in the style - I'm at a loss to see why they are so rubbish... They are just made badly ??? πŸ˜• πŸ˜’
      Can anyone else offer ideas...

      TIG

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
        last edited by

        Can you give a link?

        Gai...

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        • B Offline
          bjack56
          last edited by

          Here is a link to the Kohler toilet. Maybe something in the conversion they did from AutoCad (which I primarily use) .DWG to .SKP.
          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=df56f22b99733ebf048b78a6e8aa42f&prevstart=0

          Here is a link to the tub I used, but I think it was from an individual & not Kohler?
          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=2f6da348147cad9c3321831d2245cf06&prevstart=0

          I have various stages of my model saved, so will try to attach a screen-shot of the difference soon.

          THX

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            Hm. I downloaded both. Exploded them (the toilet was 3 levels deeply nested) and made a component from each. Had a look with hidden geometry on (edges are disabled in styles BTW) but have not found any weird issues yet.

            I cannot even see those weird edges that TIG mentions. Could you make a screenshot of what to look at/for, TIG?

            Gai...

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            • B Offline
              bjack56
              last edited by

              Can't figure out how to lod the pic's into message. Tried 4 times & keeps giving the 1st uplad in preview???

              Maybe I don't fully understand Styles in relation to my Model?

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                The examples linked are OK - although if you do change the style to show edges and switch hidden geometry 'on' then you can see that what should be symmetrical forms aren't as the mesh is not 'mirrored'...
                In the initial absence of a link the components that I tried were 'baths' and these had 'double-skinned' "hulls", with some overlapping facets and localized reversed faces etc hiding edges and without edges 'on' you can't orient them etc - it looks like a lot of these are not perfectly made, but then they are 'free' πŸ˜’

                TIG

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                • B Offline
                  bjack56
                  last edited by

                  Don't give me too hard a time on my model, my primary use is AutoCad & I'm trying to learn how to use SketckUp πŸ˜„

                  The toilet in the ScreenShots are NOT the Kohler discussed earlier. Notice the tub, it was fine for several days until I decided to try what I thought would be a better .SKP toilet drawing in my Model. I have tried changing every "Face/Edge" combination possible to get my tub to view properly in Model Space again??ScreenShot Bath_Original.jpg

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                  • A Offline
                    alpro
                    last edited by

                    Yeah I tried using some of those models awhile ago, they were a mess especially the tubs. I ended up going to the Kohler site and downloading the plan, front, and side dwgs of what I needed and modeled them myself, it was quicker. The same can be said for the GE appliance collection in the warehouse.

                    Mike


                    Looks good.JPG


                    But look closer.JPG

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Yeah, that's indeed a mess. And imagine the case when you simply do not understand why these objects do not render properly - or in some renderers they take ages.

                      Gai...

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                        bjack56
                        last edited by

                        ScreenShot of Model after Kohler toilet insert, which I deleted from Model after the tub lost detail.ScreenShot Bath_New after Kohler insert.jpg

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                          bjack56
                          last edited by

                          Render of the Model with "problem" tub shows detail as it used to in Model Space??Render_Bath_New after Kohler insert.jpg

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                          • A Offline
                            alpro
                            last edited by

                            Can you post the skp?

                            Mike

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                            • B Offline
                              bjack56
                              last edited by

                              Here is the SKP file, do you need SKB too?Master Bath_New_2.zip

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                              • A Offline
                                alpro
                                last edited by

                                The shadows are hiding the tub details, if you turn shadows off you will see the tub again. You can unhide some of the edges, then the details will show even with shadows on. I just did the top rim. I also purged your model and the size was cut in half, still at 3mb it's too big for this type of model. That's another bad thing about downloading these types of models from the warehouse, they just aren't modeled efficiently.

                                Mike


                                Master Bath_New_2a.skp

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                                • B Offline
                                  bjack56
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks Mike...could have sworn the "Shadows ON" worked OK for viewing the tub in Model Space before, but apparently not. Appreciate the fix for my annoying problem πŸ‘

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