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  • T Offline
    troyhome
    last edited by 11 Mar 2010, 16:04

    i updated and now i get an error when starting su:
    Error Loading File CymaCurveTool.rb
    undefined method `deBabelizer' for main:Object

    i'm on a mac

    IOviz.com
    SU Pro 2024 PC

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      TIG Moderator
      last edited by 11 Mar 2010, 16:10

      There is a file in the zip file called 'deBabelizer.rb' - this goes into the Plugins folder ???

      TIG

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        youemailme
        last edited by 11 Mar 2010, 17:27

        Three cheers! You've saved me loads of time, this is a much needed tool! My (paypal) check's in the mail!

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        • T Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by 11 Mar 2010, 17:29

          Thank, I have it already [ยฃ]... watch out for some other tools that are in the pipeline... ๐Ÿค“

          TIG

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            hebeijianke
            last edited by 11 Mar 2010, 22:31

            TIG: Here's the Chinese lingvo file


            CymaCurveToolZH-CN.rar

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            • T Offline
              TIG Moderator
              last edited by 11 Mar 2010, 22:34

              Thanks. I'll add it to a future update - in the meanwhile any users wanting Chinese locale lingvo can extract this and put it into their ../Plugins/TIGtools/ folder... ๐Ÿ˜„

              TIG

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                troyhome
                last edited by 12 Mar 2010, 00:50

                I had used a different deBabelizer version instead of the one included with this plug, so simply replacing that with the one included... well, that fixed it! thanks ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                IOviz.com
                SU Pro 2024 PC

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                  TIG Moderator
                  last edited by 12 Mar 2010, 09:09

                  All current versions of deBabelizer.rb are identical so it shouldn't cause problems, as long as you have one - I distribute a copy of it with each tool that will use it in case you haven't already got a copy in Plugins...
                  It's the tool needed to translate the wording of prompts and dialogs etc to your 'locale' language, if there's a 'lingvo' file found to match it - most commonly these are EN-US [English - the base default], and FR[ench] and ES[panish], and sometimes ZH-CN [Chinese] or other 'locale' codes - but any 'locale' that's returned by the system is supported if you copy/rename a lingvo file and translate the phrases in it... If you are picky you could even 'translate' the base EN-US lingvo version so it says different things - e.g. 'colour' vs 'color' if you are not American but you have a EN-US locale - or even into 'Esperanto' phrases etc where that is not an official 'locale' !
                  ๐Ÿค“

                  TIG

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                  • F Offline
                    function
                    last edited by 24 Mar 2011, 07:01

                    Hi TIG - thanks for the great tool : I'm experiencing this glitch in 8 using 1.5 -


                    cyma.jpg

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                    • T Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by 24 Mar 2011, 09:31

                      I tested it with exactly the same dialog and Units settings and it works fine for me - the only difference is I have Vista rather than XP, but that shouldn't make any difference ๐Ÿ˜•
                      At first I thought it might be because you had units displayed and accuracy set to no dp's - 4" versus 4.000 BUT that makes no difference to me either...
                      Can you get it to work with other permutations of settings or Units ?

                      TIG

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                        Dave R
                        last edited by 24 Mar 2011, 12:28

                        I just tried it with the same settings, V8 on XP and had no problems with it.

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                        • Bob JamesB Offline
                          Bob James
                          last edited by 25 Mar 2011, 07:36

                          @tig said:

                          Here's an explanation of the the 2 types of Cyma Curve...

                          I tried to use this to make pipe transitions: bend the pipe x-inches and continue in the original direction.
                          A ratio of 1.414 does not result in vertical for me (both ends do not extend parallel)
                          Also, a "follow-me" circle most often results in a long tapering cone off of the opposite end! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                          i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

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                          • T Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 25 Mar 2011, 09:35

                            @bob james said:

                            @tig said:

                            Here's an explanation of the the 2 types of Cyma Curve...

                            I tried to use this to make pipe transitions: bend the pipe x-inches and continue in the original direction.
                            A ratio of 1.414 does not result in vertical for me (both ends do not extend parallel)
                            Also, a "follow-me" circle most often results in a long tapering cone off of the opposite end! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                            Bob
                            A Cyma Curve is really for making moldings and profiles, and not for 'followme' pipe bends...
                            A ratio of 1.414 won't give exactly parallel start/ends as it's not exactly sqrt(2) - To enter the more 'exact' value type sqrt(2) - it's easier that typing 1.414213562373095050 etc...
                            However even that will give slightly 'off vertical' ends, as the tolerances in the Maths etc... Capture1.PNG For some reason the Cyma Curve will not always make a good 'followme' path with PipeAlongPath - but with 'vanilla' FollowMe it's better...
                            If you add short horizontal bits on the ends of the Cyma Curve and use the three as the path it should then give vertical terminations, like this...Capture.PNG You can then move the end circles horizontally to change the 'leg' length as desired...

                            TIG

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                            • Bob JamesB Offline
                              Bob James
                              last edited by 25 Mar 2011, 17:23

                              Thanks, TIG.
                              I realize using this tool for pipes (actually it's more often for electrical conduits) is a little "out of the box", but it was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw it. Besides, even with adding short segments it's faster than drawing arcs or using bezier curves.
                              Neat tool ๐Ÿ‘

                              P.S. I was using the vanilla follow-me tool (but, yes, in the "real world" I would use Pipe-Along Path). Sometimes, however, SU does not recognize it as a legitimate path.

                              i7-4930K 3.4Ghz, 2x GTX780 6GB, 32GB DDR3-1600 ECC, OCZ Vertex 4 500GB, WD Black 3TB, 32TB NAS, 4x 27" Monitors, SpaceMouse Pro, X-keys XK-60

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                              • gonashviliG Offline
                                gonashvili
                                last edited by 28 Jan 2013, 06:24

                                Can you please explain the formula 2Y/sqrt(XX+Y*Y), particulrly the /sqrt part, i'm not familiar with the american way of math writing. Thank you!

                                Also, I thought the two parts of the curve were supposed to be different, based on Chord proportion [to make them undulate in such beautiful manner ๐Ÿ˜„]?

                                Even if X and Y are different, the radius is the same, but I might got this all wrong ๐Ÿ‘Š

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                                • T Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 28 Jan 2013, 10:15

                                  2*Y/sqrt(X*X+Y*Y)
                                  The X and Y are the curve's enclosing rectangle's sizes.
                                  The '' is 'multiply by' [ร—] - so that in this case it is 2 times the Y value [2Y].
                                  The '/' is 'divide by' [รท].
                                  The 'sqrt' is the standard abbreviation for 'square-root'.
                                  You can also use 'sqrt(nn)' in the ;input;, substituting 'nn' with the required numerical value - it will then find the square-root for you: you can only add a number, not a formula...
                                  The '()' are used to show that you do the calculations inside them before taking the square-root. Also the '*' parts within them are done before the '+'. Note that the part to the right of the '/' is basic 'Pythagoras' stuff...
                                  The default tool makes 'perfect' aesthetic curves according to the ancient rules explained in the help-text, but quite often these proportions are adjusted for other reasons, hence the opportunity to customize the values...

                                  TIG

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                                    function
                                    last edited by 15 Oct 2013, 21:51

                                    I still get the weird glitch at the bottom of the cymas with all different settings, new windows 7 build, new sketchup installs, and downloading the newest version here... maybe its a plugin conflict???

                                    after exploding, deleting the extra piece and then welding again, the dimensions are still what was input in the dialogue

                                    2013-10-15_234846.jpg

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                                    • T Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by 12 Dec 2013, 21:36

                                      Here's a new future-proofed update.
                                      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=230584#p230584

                                      TIG

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                                      • T Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 4 Mar 2014, 12:48

                                        Here an up date http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=CymaCurve
                                        Tweaks to lingvo files for v2014 compatibility.

                                        TIG

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