Float toolbar on creation?

Jim

Can a toolbar be set to float before it is shown for the first time?

TIG

NO - even hacking the registry seems fraught ?

thomthom

remus

I was under the impression that youd arrived at the 'no' yourself verdict a while ago after playing around with the relevant registry entries...

Jim

@remus said:

I was under the impression that youd arrived at the 'no' yourself verdict a while ago after playing around with the relevant registry entries...

Yes, but I've been wrong before and it doesn't hurt to ask.

How about getting a list of the Ruby toolbars?

thomthom

@jim said:

How about getting a list of the Ruby toolbars?

As Toolbar objects?

thomthom

@tig said:

Since the Toolbar methods are scant this is not much use, some extra methods like
Toolbars.each
Toolbar.name
Tollbar... etc would be helpful ?

Yea - something for the last.

Though - I feel that SU need a new menu and toolbar system. One where authors register their menus and toolbars with SU - providing default position for them and allow the user to rearrange them as fit. I'd rather have that - if they are going to introduce new methods for the toolbar nightmare.

TIG

You can use Sketchup.read_default for ToolbarsUserNN in the registry and find the BarIDand BarNameetc for each one - and a few other relatively useless bits of info...

The entry ToolbarsUser-Summary > Bars gives the total number of 'user toolbars' so you can construct a loop to go through to find each one with NN ...

Since the Toolbar methods are scant this is not much use, some extra methods like
Toolbars.each
Toolbar.name
Toolbar... etc would be helpful ?

thomthom

hmm...

Just noticed something.

Say that you have a toolbar named 'FooBar' created by another script.

If you from your own script do t = UI::Toolbar.new('FooBar')
You can then hide and show it, like this:

t.hide t.show t.visible?

promising - as now we can emureate the registry to get the toolbar names. (need a solution for OSX)
BUT!

Try to add separators or items...

c = UI::Command.new("Tester") { UI.messagebox("Hello World") } t.add_item(c)

Fail!

So close.
But - this does allow us to create a method that returns a list of Ruby created toolbars and control their visibility. Just need that OSX solution.

thomthom

hmm...

n = UI::Toolbar.new('FooBar') #<UI::Toolbar:0xd0820a8> n.add_item(c) #<UI::Toolbar:0xd0820a8> n.add_item(c) #<UI::Toolbar:0xd0820a8> n.add_separator #<UI::Toolbar:0xd0820a8> n.add_item(c) #<UI::Toolbar:0xd0820a8> n.show nil n.add_separator #<UI::Toolbar:0xd0820a8> n.add_item(c) #<UI::Toolbar:0xd0820a8>
Even when I have the original toolbar object I can't add items after the toolbar has been shown. The last two items in the above sample where not added to the toolbar. Is it really not possible to add items dynamically afterwards?

thomthom

@tig said:

The entry ToolbarsUser-Summary > Bars gives the total number of 'user toolbars' so you can construct a loop to go through to find each one with NN ...

Sketchup.read_default('ToolbarsUser-Summary', 'Bars', nil)
This just returns 1 for me. The registry value is 49.

TIG

It should return that value BUT I don't even get 1 - I get nil ???

thomthom

I wonder if Sketchup.read_default prevents access to SU's own registry values. Might have to use the Win32 API - or have anyone been able to access any of the other SU registry values?

I can only get S ketchup.read_default to return correct values for what Sketchup.write_default has created. thought this could be an easy cross platform method for SU settings...

thomthom

Doing some tests:


require 'C;/Ruby/lib/ruby/1.8/win32/registry.rb'


module TT_Test
  
  def self.toolbars
    toolbars = []
    begin
      path_summary = 'Software\\Google\\SketchUp7\\ToolbarsUser-Summary'
      Win32;;Registry;;HKEY_CURRENT_USER.open(path_summary) { |reg|
        bars = reg.read_i('Bars')
        
        (0..bars-1).each { |i|
          section = "ToolbarsUser-Bar#{i}"
          begin
            path_toolbar = "Software\\Google\\SketchUp7\\#{section}"
            Win32;;Registry;;HKEY_CURRENT_USER.open(path_toolbar) { |r|
              r.each { |subkey, type, data|
                if type == Win32;;Registry;;REG_SZ && subkey == 'BarName'
                  toolbars << data
                  break
                end
              }
            }
          rescue
            next
          end
        }
      }
      return toolbars
    rescue
      return nil
    end

  end # def

end

Gets an array of Ruby Toolbars. Work on PC - but requires registry.rb. Will look into calling the Win32 API directly so it only requires Win32API.

(I'm not sure how to deal with requirements of standard ruby libraries. include the registry.rb with my plugin and load only if it isn't defined? require 'C:\ruby\lib\ruby\1.8\win32\registry.rb' if defined?(Win32::Registry).nil?)

How do you read settings on OSX? Where are these settings stored?

TIG

The Mac has 'plist' files like an 'ini' file == the registry...

thomthom

Does OSX have an API to read it, or do you just open it and parse it yourself?

TIG

I am Macless. I don't know about plist API readers ...
Here is a 'plist' set someone gave me for info - it is 'readable' - just about...MacPlistArchive.zip
Here's another useful link http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/BPRuntimeConfig/Articles/ConfigFiles.html

chrisjk

There are plist editors available that make the task much simpler by parsing it for you and showing what can be changed etc. eg http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14363

thomthom

I'll check that out. I got an old Mac mini to test on.

thomthom

hmm... the Info.plist file in the Sketchup application package does not contain the same info we see in the Windows registry...