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    • Chris FullmerC Offline
      Chris Fullmer
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      Any chance that you actually don't have anything on that layer, and then you purge-all to get rid of components and materials and styles, and it deletes the unused layers too?

      Chris

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      • thomthomT Offline
        thomthom
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        @chris fullmer said:

        Any chance that you actually don't have anything on that layer, and then you purge-all to get rid of components and materials and styles, and it deletes the unused layers too?

        Chris

        This would be my best bet as well.

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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          tomasz
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          @chris fullmer said:

          Any chance that you actually don't have anything on that layer, and then you purge-all to get rid of components and materials and styles, and it deletes the unused layers too?

          Chris

          Lads, please! I am not THAT novice in therms of SU modelling πŸ˜„

          Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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          • Chris FullmerC Offline
            Chris Fullmer
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            I'm not suggesting you would do it not knowing what "purge" means, but more like possibly purging not realizing that somehow all geometry had been moved off a few layers and so by purging, you were setting yourself up to unknowingly lose a few layers. Its happened to me.

            I wonder if a script could be made that would write all layers names of a model into a separate text file. THen compare those names on opening and re-write them on closing. Then you could track if some were missing that had been there previously. Just a thought, but knowing what I do about ruby observers, I have a feeling it would be nearly impossible to automate.

            Chris

            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
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            • thomthomT Offline
              thomthom
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              Do you have a 100% reproducible example?

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
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                Can't reproduce.

                @unknownuser said:

                then minimizes the layer tab,

                The Layer window is minimized?

                That's odd. I've never seen that either.

                Just for the sake of testing - rename your plugin folder temporarily and try the same. Just incase there is a rouge plugin loose.

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                  tomasz
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                  @thomthom said:

                  Do you have a 100% reproducible example?

                  I do.
                  The file is saved in SU6 format (in SU6Free) and I have figured out what is going on.

                  If I open the file in SU7.1 Pro (having blank SU model space) through File\Open menu it opens just fine with all layers, BUT when I do open same file by double click, something strange happens with the layers menu. It shows all layers in tact, then minimizes the layer tab, standard message 'Opening older version' appears AND when I open the layers ALL of them are gone! Nothing on the list!

                  I have even managed to create a sample file.


                  Open the file by double click or with clean SU through File\Open


                  When with blank SU & Filepen

                  Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                    tomasz
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                    What happens on your machine when you double click the file? Do you get all layers?

                    Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
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                      hm... the more I think of it. rounds like a plugin doing something funky.

                      The reason you see this only when you double-click is that it loads the plugins at the same time it loads your file. So I really think one of your installed plugins is doing naughty things upon load. my guess would be to look for anyone that causes the layer window to minimize.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
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                        @unknownuser said:

                        What happens on your machine when you double click the file? Do you get all layers?

                        Yes. I never lost any layers. Only time was when I hit purge - but that only removed some of them. not all.

                        As mentioned in my previous post - I think it's a plugin messing with the model's entities at startup.

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                          tomasz
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                          You are right. A plugin is messing with SU.
                          Without plugins it works just fine.
                          It must be a plugin that uses an Observer on startup, isn't it?

                          Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            It must be a plugin that uses an Observer on startup, isn't it?

                            Don't think so. It's not something that happens every time you open a model. Just when you start SU. So it's some sort of command that¨runs immediately as the plugin is loaded.

                            How many plugins you got installed?

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              tomasz
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                              No wonder, that only I have experienced this error. 😳
                              Have copied a 'purge' snippet from somewhere and has forgotten about it. It was sitting in the midst of all other rubies.
                              πŸ˜†
                              Thank you! 😍

                              Author of [Thea Render for SketchUp](http://www.thearender.com/sketchup)

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                              • thomthomT Offline
                                thomthom
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                                πŸ‘
                                Mystery of the day solved! πŸ˜„

                                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
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                                  So you are saying, Tomasz, that you are not such a novice to unintentionally purge your layers. πŸ˜’
                                  Hm... It seems that scripters do this via ruby.
                                  🀣

                                  Gai...

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