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Podium VS IDX Renditioner VS Twilight. Which To Buy?

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    honoluludesktop
    last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 18:55

    Gai, That's not really fair is it? I could be wrong, but my recollection is that as far as alpha support, IDX renders everything that SU can display. Will SU display your example of a 2d face-me tree? Still, having alpha support beyond SU can be a asset at times. Anyway, my apologies if I am mistaken.

    Not a good example of a render (I did this with IDX out of the box), but note the 2d face-me trees.

    "Black Art" indeed:-)


    Render Makai 01.jpg

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      Gaieus
      last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 19:34

      Hm. Then what am I doing wrong?
      Are your trees really cut out in SU (like outlines traced and such)?

      Gai...

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        honoluludesktop
        last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 19:55

        Here is a (too long) post I wrote about making 2d images, and another 2d person I did for fun:-)


        Temp13.jpg

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          honoluludesktop
          last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 19:57

          Those trees I downloaded from Google, attached is a IDX render with 2d face-me people that I cut out in SU.


          Render Living Room Ewa wall 08 chairman.jpg

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            wmanning
            last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 20:20

            Actually Gaieus is right: IDX Renditioner doesn't support a true alpha transparency .png material. You've just found a work-around that's good for you.

            Unfortunately our development team had been sidelined on some other projects, DoubleCAD in particular, otherwise we'd have had a version out with Alpha transparency a long time ago.

            It's coming, along with other bells and whistles, but I don't have a firm date yet.

            And you're right: we do have a half off special on the web site for the month of December. Thanks for mentioning it.

            -- William

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              Gaieus
              last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 21:59

              Hi William

              Really looking forward to that new version! Hope you1ll be able to release it soon - although DoubleCAD has also proved very useful (both for me and many others) so I could now not really decide which development to support.
              😄

              Gai...

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                honoluludesktop
                last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 07:09

                Guess I don't really know what alpha support really is. When I cutout the background in my 2d-face me people, exactly what am I doing? What ever it is, it renders OK. Can anyone explain it to me?

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                  remus
                  last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 08:59

                  Your basically just creating a person shaped face in SU which conveniently already has a texture applied to it. When a renderer renders an image with alpha transparency (as with twilight) it is using information already in the image to sort of cut it put for you. Just a matter of convenience really.

                  http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                    Gaieus
                    last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 10:21

                    The ability to use simple (rectangular) faces as Face me components and apply textures with transparent background has the obvious advantages that

                    • you need not hassle with tracing them around in SU
                    • eventually you end up with MUCH less geometry in your model.
                      True that there is one big disadvantage; SU - although can recognise image based transparency - cannot get it to work with shadows so you will end up with an ugly, rectangular shadow for every such component (or you turn them casting shadows off completely).
                      But even in this case, some low-poly, dummy shadow-casting piece would be enough for a "rough" shadow.

                    Gai...

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 9 Dec 2009, 12:36

                      In term of speed rendering Podium versus IDX?
                      I have seen video of IDX : seems very speedy ?
                      [flash=425,344:galk7a1w]http://www.youtube.com/v/pOia4-lFX70&hl=fr_FR&fs=1[/flash:galk7a1w]
                      [flash=425,344:galk7a1w]http://www.youtube.com/v/UMdMkKLaLp0&hl=fr_FR&fs=1[/flash:galk7a1w]

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        nomeradona
                        last edited by 12 Dec 2009, 03:00

                        I will definitely recommend podium it easy to use.. an still wait perhaps for the Podium V2.. sepo's sample Beta render in the gallery is very respectable.

                        visit my blog: http://www.nomeradona.blogspot.com

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                          sepo
                          last edited by 12 Dec 2009, 11:00

                          There is an advantage in getting Podium 1.7.1 now as there will be small upgrade price to V2....so you end up with 2 distinct rendering software.

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                            Edson
                            last edited by 12 Dec 2009, 12:10

                            align,

                            it depends a lot on what your intentions and occupation are. if you are an architect or designer, hence the focus of your work is the design, you would be better off with one of the applications that demand a short learning curve and that are easy to operate. i am talking of podium, twilight, irender, kerkythea, idx renditioner, indigo, pov-ray, etc. however, if you are an ilustrator or work in the visualization field, you might want more control to achieve super-hyper-realism. then it is probably worth – i say probably as you can achieve exceptional results with any of the apps i just mentioned – having a go at the likes of vray, maxwell, modo and others of the same caliber.

                            but never forget solo's wise warning: rendering is at best 50% to do with the app you use. the rest is up to the artist in charge.

                            edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                            http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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