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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
      last edited by

      "Fire-Water Pot": Picture by Picture tutorial:

      Step 2:First and second Bending processes.
      Due to the stamped font label we want to incluse into the pot, we shall need a brother shape to pierce the pot to the exact dimensions. So every bending operation is followed the same for the two of them.

      • No matter the thickness is for the brother one because only the precision of the inside face is important to us. Elsewhere, i unsoft the edges after bending to help for adjustment and mostly to pull after the second bending an extra volume in the inside direction.

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SkechUcation/GoodOldRum_A/GORtut_550_005.jpg

      • Preparation for the second bending. It is necessary to be very precise at this stage for the second shape weds perfectly the pot. Don't forget edges and faces precision that interess us are the inside ones (faces to the pot). We use the axis of the pot and radii as gauge.
      • The exact place for the left-to-right line needed in the bending process must be well understood.

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SkechUcation/GoodOldRum_A/GORtut_550_006.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/videos/th_GOR_scndBend.gif

      • We now have a good idea for the final label. We have to make some cleaning job with this curved label. Because in the bending operation number of lines appears hide and some others need to be soften. So it is very usefull to work with the very simple and good Matt666's Soften/Unsoften

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SkechUcation/GoodOldRum_A/GORtut_550_007.jpg

      **/*
      😄 simonlebon

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      • simon le bonS Offline
        simon le bon
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        ...// But we can make it the same very easily with a Fredo's new tool

        "Fire-Water Pot: "THE CORK" / FredoScale Version"


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/ToolsThumbs/FredoScale.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_001_550.jpg

        another Fredo's wonderful product: 😆 Fredo _ RoundCorner 2.0b
        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/ToolsThumbs/RoundEdge.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_002_550.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_003_550.jpg

        Call the settings by "TAB"

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_004_550.jpg

        Wireframe (always very useful to think to)

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_005_550.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_006_550.jpg

        An automatic triangulation

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_007_550.jpg


        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_008_550.jpg

        😎

        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFredoScale_009_550.jpg

        simon

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        • simon le bonS Offline
          simon le bon
          last edited by

          I will never stop this tread I guess 😆 . I have many other tuts ready in my head. I am going to keep alone when everybody will be tired of my PoorFlatEllipsoidIndian pots 😆

          "Fire-Water Pot: THE CORK / SketchyFFD Version"

          CPhillips _SketchyFFD

          for whom who want to see screenshots in the comfort of there eyes, here is the album/slideshow.
          SketchyFFD_Cork Album


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_001_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_002_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_003_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_004_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_005_550.jpg

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/ToolsThumbs/WireFrame.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_006_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_007_550.jpg

          Please note that the inner FFD subdivision doesn't work so well in our case..!!

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_008_550.jpg

          FFD >> lock bottom edges

          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_009_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_010_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_011_550.jpg


          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_012_550.jpg

          [url=http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=13645:2ut6pohv]Matt666 _ Soften/Unsoften
          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/ToolsThumbs/SoftUnsoft.jpg
          [/url:2ut6pohv]
          [url=http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_013.jpg:2ut6pohv]
          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_013_550.jpg
          [/url:2ut6pohv]

          [url=http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_014.jpg:2ut6pohv][img:2ut6pohv]http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_014_550.jpg[/img:2ut6pohv][/url:2ut6pohv]
          😎
          [url=http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_015.jpg:2ut6pohv][img:2ut6pohv]http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/CorkFFD_015_550.jpg[/img:2ut6pohv][/url:2ut6pohv]

          simon

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          • simon le bonS Offline
            simon le bon
            last edited by

            "Fire-Water Pot"_MOLTEN LETTERS _ A

            introduction prior to the use of S&S

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_001.jpg

            .../

            1- Produce subsurf-proxy for each letter
            2- Produce a smoothed shape of each letter with S&S (remember it's a commercial plugin)
            3- Produce a sculpted smoothed shape with FFD

            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_002.jpg

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            • simon le bonS Offline
              simon le bon
              last edited by

              "Fire-Water Pot"_MOLTEN LETTERS _ B


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_003.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_004.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_005.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_006.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_007.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_008.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_009.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_010.jpg


              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_011.jpg

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              • simon le bonS Offline
                simon le bon
                last edited by

                "Fire-Water Pot"_MOLTEN LETTERS _ C


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_012.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_013.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_014.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_015.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_016.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_017.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_018.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_019.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_020.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_021.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_022.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_023.jpg


                http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_024.jpg

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                • simon le bonS Offline
                  simon le bon
                  last edited by

                  "Fire-Water Pot"_MOLTEN LETTERS _ D


                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_025.jpg


                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_026.jpg


                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_027.jpg


                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_028.jpg

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
                    last edited by

                    @simon le bon said:

                    My conclusion:Not bad

                    "Not bad"???

                    Simon, these series are so good and the result is so perfect that "not bad" sounds really an understatement. 👍

                    Gai...

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                    • simon le bonS Offline
                      simon le bon
                      last edited by

                      "Fire-Water Pot"_MOLTEN LETTERS _ ShapeBender process

                      Previous process improved:

                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_034.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_035.jpg



                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_029.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_030.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_031.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_032.jpg


                      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_033.jpg

                      My conclusion:Not bad but! SketchUp is basically a cad tool. Even with the super modeling plugins that developpers bring day after day, it is limited to achieve real organic shapes

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                      • simon le bonS Offline
                        simon le bon
                        last edited by

                        Dear Gaieus,

                        It's always a great pleasure to see you always the first to watch and the first to comment 😉

                        Many thanks to your kind judgment++. In fact I had really tried hard to reach something perfect. In this matter, I think I had worked around SketchUp limits. (Something I was searching for).
                        In view of the result I think that we should do better with a dedicated modeller, don't you?


                        http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_b.jpg

                        😄 simon

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                        • GaieusG Offline
                          Gaieus
                          last edited by

                          Surely these are already the "boundaries" of SketchUp and indeed SU was not "invented" for these kinds of operations. Yet with these beautiful plugins we can at lest "visit" these boundaries (even if it may not be part of my regular, daily workflow)

                          Gai...

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            How give shadows to transparent material


                            http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thRumGlass.jpg

                            😉 S.

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                            • simon le bonS Offline
                              simon le bon
                              last edited by

                              "Fire-Water Pot"_MOLTEN LETTERS _ introduction

                              @unknownuser said:

                              "Fire-Water Pot": Picture by Picture tutorial:

                              Step 1: Determination of our basic elements: pot's shape, rectangle and cartridge for the label.
                              .../...

                              • Cartridge completion: no tut for this. Using PushPull, 3DTxt, etc..You Know that. 😆
                                >>>(I will make something in a next post on how smooth everything as if the letters were cast in glass. But i will ask for the community to help because i havn't found everything)

                              Something I have done here:
                              How can I make a letter rounded?

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I would like to obtain something more "real"; less squarred. Something perhaps like molten glass.

                              And with a great help from several SCF people and mainly with ely862me (Elisei) who have found not far from everything, I Have reached the goal.

                              So here is the organized result of this study. I can't call this a tutorial as everything at each step was hardly handmade. The "M" with its straight lines presented the biggest difficulty, and I had been forced to completely redraw it.
                              I must add that in the various steps of process, many plugins had failed: Letters are indeed very complex shapes.
                              Also, with so many entities to manipulate,

                              http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/Th_MoltLet_a.jpg

                              many native tools had failed(>bug: infinite processor's calculations). Move/Copy, Intersect with the model, explode, make unique etc.

                              My poor old PC too was hanging with calculations.
                              (a tip: i call by CTRL-Alt-Del the "Gestionnaire des tâches"(english?)to see the processor working (100%!) during long long calculations)

                              I must also say that I was surprised to see how Skin, S&S, FFD, Bools Tools and ShapeBender are strong and reliable.

                              *s

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                              • ely862meE Offline
                                ely862me
                                last edited by

                                Wooow...u are really getting into this.
                                Very nice!! Keep up!

                                Elisei

                                Elisei (sketchupper)


                                Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                Come and See EliseiDesign

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                                • simon le bonS Offline
                                  simon le bon
                                  last edited by

                                  Dear Elisei,

                                  Cheerful comment.
                                  I want remember again the great part you had taken in this study:
                                  [
                                  @ely862me said:

                                  sds is good but u need to know how to use it 😉 (clickable quote)
                                  ](http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f)

                                  As I was not completely satisfied with the result: Top faces not really smooth:
                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/th_MoltLet_b.jpg

                                  I have tried back to subdivide (manually) the top face of the "subsurf proxy": something which we had discussed..
                                  This time, the result is OK to me 😄

                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thMoltLet_c.jpg


                                  http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/thMoltLet_d.jpg

                                  My conclusion: If the S&S operation is not completely satisfying, don't try to repair the resultant "subsurf" (as I had done), but come back on the "subsurf proxy" to discover what is wrong. Because in my case, all the little odd results of the subsurfs where coming from little wrong drawings of the proxies.

                                  😎 simon

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