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    • simon le bonS Offline
      simon le bon
      last edited by simon le bon

      Hi everybody,
      I need you, you, you! (remember The Blues Brothers).
      Someone had surely already found a good solution to round a letter. I would like to do: you know something which looks like a word stamped on a bottle . I have tried several approaches and my best is far from perfection and take a lot of time (write an entire word is a real hard work)

      I have tried:

      Subdivide and Smooth:

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_Y_450.jpg

      Round Edge - v1.0 (by Bezier)

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_Z_450.jpg

      Soap, Skin & Bubble>> direct BugSplat 🎉

      As I hadn't found anything simple, I came back on heavy basic solutions:

      1_ Try to round by hand:

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_A_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_B_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_C_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_D_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_E_450.jpg

      2_ And the classic FollowMeTool

      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_F_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_G_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_H_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_I_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_J_450.jpg


      http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_K_450.jpg

      Here is my best, here i am 😠

      😄 simon

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
        last edited by

        What is the name if this police character?

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Lettercharacter, Pilou. LETTER. Police is your French expression (and this is the second time you get into confusion about this - first in the Ideas Box and Board Issues with Coen, if you remember) 😉

          Simon, what if you enlarge the letters? Would SoapSkinBubble bugsplat then, too?
          BTW unfortunately many of the images are not clickable so the fine details cannot be clearly seen (with my bad eyes). Otherwise (I can imagine) great series - AGAIN!

          Gai...

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
            last edited by

            FONT.

            http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1154/13828123.gif

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Font of course! 😳 DaFont 💚
              Maybe that is the glamour of uniform 😄

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Yeah, font. Letter. Character - whatever but the cops.
                🤣

                Gai...

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                • Alan FraserA Offline
                  Alan Fraser
                  last edited by

                  I know that SU now has its own 3D text tool, but that tool is fairly basic. Don't forget the solution of choice before the built-in option (or the Smustard Ruby)
                  Elefont will automatically add a variety of bevels and chamfers that can be exported in dxf and brought into SU.
                  http://www.armanisoft.ch/webdesign/elefont/Elefont.html

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                  You could be entitled to compensation. Call the Pro Claimers now!

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                  • simon le bonS Offline
                    simon le bon
                    last edited by

                    Hello Pilou: Tu as bien raison de faire gaffe à la police 😆 ici Letter Character is VICTORIAN LET.

                    Dear Gaieus,
                    I am always proud to find your interest 😄
                    **1_**Yes I have tried many things with SS&B and have found direct BugSplat each time (i've tried the same with simpler shapes where everything results ok)
                    2_ Mercy for your eyes. Each picture but the first one are now clickable. And I additionaly put a Picasa Slideshow at the end of this post which is i mean an easy workable way to visit an explanation.
                    (Picasa3 + Picasa Web Albums: another Google product 😉 which is very handy. The good way is to produce and organize the new album on the pc before send it online.)

                    Dear Solo,
                    Glad to meet you. The last time was for my birthday at the beginning of May.
                    A Video Whaow!!. Thank for that. My last solution is not far from yours: you make for exemple an intermediate smooth operation.
                    I would like to obtain something more "real"; less squarred. Something perhaps like molten glass.

                    Dear Alan,
                    So please to meet you after so long 😛 . Hope you feel good and that everything works like a charm. I'm surely going to study your Elefont you are talking about, and I shall tell you.

                    **/*

                    I have made a continuation to the last step of my best attempt (with FollowMe Tool), using FredoScale 2.0g (+Shear, Stretch, Bend, Twist)

                    It is still not what i would like but it is approaching. (The overall process is more and more heavy 😞 )


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_L_450.jpg


                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_M_450.jpg

                    ...,and a thickness scale:

                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_N_450.jpg

                    What i'm searching would may be also be perfect to figure out the welding between to pieces of metal or another a welding between a Handle to its pot.. It's a Pity that Soap, Skin & Bubble doesn't work between to ringed curves!

                    Rounded Letter PicasaSlideshow

                    **simon

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                    • GaieusG Offline
                      Gaieus
                      last edited by

                      Definitely better to see the images now, thanks, Simon. Yes, there are a couple of tiny details I was missing - everything is much more understandable this way.

                      So basically you need the

                      • complex, rounded shape to start with
                      • but then put some kind of "slight" irregularity into it like it is achieved with glass when being manufactured?

                      Gai...

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        How I can make a letter rounded?

                        Solution of facility of a Moment of Inspiration! 💚 C'est tout bon pour les fainéants 😉
                        Aieus' letters are now missing 😄 (click image)


                        gg.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • simon le bonS Offline
                          simon le bon
                          last edited by

                          @gaieus said:

                          ../ So basically you need the

                          • complex, rounded shape to start with
                          • but then put some kind of "slight" irregularity into it like it is achieved with glass when being manufactured?

                          You are right 😛 I hadn't thought things in these two steps but you are right. In fact, as Pilou said also in his way, i need a modeler!
                          I was searching for a tool or a regular way to do the job without to much effort 😆
                          I have tried to show what could SoapSkin&Bubble be if it was working with two different ringed curves. If it was the case a lot of new things could be done. 👍
                          So i have used Skin.rb then a subdivide operation with Subdivide&Smooth and after what a "Bubble" operation whith SketchyFFD.
                          Ok the result isn't very beautiful but we can see the idea, isn't it?

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_X_450.jpg

                          As you can see with my "G" (from "Gaieus" as well as "Good Old Rum" 😆 ) after I smooth it, it still remains the presence of some hidden lines which are not very beautiful.. I don't know what to do with them.

                          http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_O_450.jpg

                          Dear Pilou! I admire the way you take things and work on them! Thanks for all those exemples. Unfortunatly, I havn't the first knowledge of even one modeler. My PC works hard to make SU running, and I can't even think to run a modeler on it 😠 (It is planned i get a war-machine nextly)

                          **simon

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                          • simon le bonS Offline
                            simon le bon
                            last edited by

                            Cher Pilou,

                            @unknownuser said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            My PC works hard to make SU running, and I can't even think to run a modeler on it

                            Are you joking? 😮

                            unfortunately i am not. When the poly count increase, and we know how it goes up easily whith modeler tools, every operation begin to be painful. I also fight a lot to make screen casts at the same time. Perhaps have I too much rubys installed: i don't know technically the impact.

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I have just progs who don't ask too many things to the video card!
                            Zbrusch, Moi, Su, Blender 😉
                            PS SU is also a modeler! ☀

                            To tell the truth i ever been so sure that my PC couldn't that I have never tried to install one of those modeler/renderer. In fact, it is possible i am wrong ! 😕 Perhaps i could try MOI which find your great approbation 😉

                            @unknownuser said:

                            PS2 What happen when a render is made with there "horrible lines"?

                            I don't know how eliminate them in SU , and i don't know how a renderer treats them..

                            **s

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                            • ely862meE Offline
                              ely862me
                              last edited by

                              Take the model as in image 3 or 4 and run Subdivide&Smooth on it..u ll get the desired result 😉(with some more tweaking)

                              Elisei (sketchupper)


                              Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                              Come and See EliseiDesign

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                              • GaieusG Offline
                                Gaieus
                                last edited by

                                Simon,

                                With those "horrible" lines there, isn't there a (maybe even hidden) face inside the model? (A follow me operation would cause a face/bent surface all along)

                                Gai...

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  OK, glad it worked. 👍 (it was just a shy guess actually because I was also suspecting you knew there should be a face)

                                  Anyway, There is a nicely rounded, beautifully smooth character/letter/font/police there now. It is however very high poly I think and even has many polygons here and there much denser than elsewhere so what we should do now is to make the mesh more "average" (and probably "less poly" where it's not needed) with Didier Bur's Terrain Reshaper plugin. You can experiment with it; how high or low poly you want it to appear. Maybe it won't work nicely on the vertical surfaces but will also triangulate the mesh (needed for the next step).

                                  Then comes Jim Foltz' Randomize TIN plugin with which you can easily give a bit of "irregularity" into the mesh - also, with the desired value.

                                  Note that I hevn't tried the method; just "thinking loud".

                                  Gai...

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                                  • simon le bonS Offline
                                    simon le bon
                                    last edited by

                                    I follow you dear Gaieus,

                                    I've tried Didier Bur's[Plugin]: Terrain Reshaper you advise to me. After a couple of tests the result promises to be encouraging.


                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_U_450.jpg

                                    the begining of cleaning.

                                    http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj245/Spendauballet/SketchUp/ThickLabel_V_450.jpg

                                    I must stop here for the moment. I leave the place for a couple of days and be back soon for the continuation of your process.. 😉
                                    😎 **s

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                                    • ely862meE Offline
                                      ely862me
                                      last edited by

                                      may i have the letter..save it in skp 6 please

                                      Elisei

                                      Elisei (sketchupper)


                                      Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
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                                      • simon le bonS Offline
                                        simon le bon
                                        last edited by

                                        Dear Elisei,

                                        Here is my (SU6) Skp (I'm sorry not to much organized working one) DivShare File - RoundedLetter.skp

                                        Please take your time because again, some few days not far from a couple of weeks are going to take me away from house (from my PC 😆 ). So I'm going to be not very active in this trhead until i'll be back .
                                        ...// 😎 simon

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                                        • ely862meE Offline
                                          ely862me
                                          last edited by

                                          sds is good but u need to know how to use it 😉


                                          RoundedLettera.skp


                                          RoundedLettera.jpg

                                          Elisei (sketchupper)


                                          Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                          Come and See EliseiDesign

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                                          • ely862meE Offline
                                            ely862me
                                            last edited by

                                            😆 actually is very simple..

                                            i ll give u 3 hints: offset tool,skin tool and scale tool

                                            Elisei (sketchupper)


                                            Before no life was done on Earth it was THE LIFE ITSELF...GOD
                                            Come and See EliseiDesign

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