[Plugin Idea] Deform Plugin

dacad · 7 Jun 2009, 12:48

Free Agent, that's scary...it's like you could read my mind.
Couldn't agree more.

Sketchup stoped in time about 5-6 years ago, and sometimes i, as a user, even feel i'm the bad guy for wanting it to evolve or at least allow me to do more than the previous version...

And then we see other examples of faithfull users with other softwares, like modo, that started as just a modeler, added a texture, paint, scult tools, render, and now animation tools in about half time of the sketchup full life. For them it compensated to be suporting that software and it will keep gaining more suporters because them know the software will keep evolving. can we say the same?

I still think sketchup is great for the basic stuff and for arch stuff (some...) the problem here is that it is as "great" for this stuff now as it was as years ago, nothing changed, nothing evolved, nothing was fix, and specially there's still nothing i could do now with sketchup that i couldn't back then...and that's just sad...

remus · 7 Jun 2009, 16:33

At the risk of this turning in to the old arguement

@unknownuser said:

And then we see other examples of faithfull users with other softwares, like modo, that started as just a modeler, added a texture, paint, scult tools, render, and now animation tools in about half time of the sketchup full life. For them it compensated to be suporting that software and it will keep gaining more suporters because them know the software will keep evolving. can we say the same?

Perhaps modo is getting these tools as it was always meant to be a fully fledged animation package. The same can't be said for SU.

princedragoncok · 7 Jun 2009, 17:06

Completely agree with Freeagent and DacaD.

ps. this would be an awesome plugin

Stinkie · 7 Jun 2009, 18:33

There's something to be said for Remus' comment as well, I think. SU's not meant to compete with apps like Modo. However, it does need quite a bit of work - not to be 'up there with the big boy apps', but to become better at the tasks it was intended to be used for.

remus · 7 Jun 2009, 18:39

@unknownuser said:

However, it does need quite a bit of work - not to be 'up there with the big boy apps', but to become better at the tasks it was intended to be used for.

here here! (or is it 'hear hear'? i can never remember.)

sepo · 7 Jun 2009, 18:53

If the Google is working on those that is great news. After all they might be listening what people were saying. Can you tell if one of the several was highpoly?

mpowell1234567890 · 9 Jun 2009, 05:22

Cool Plugin - Whre can I find the plugin?

Gaieus · 9 Jun 2009, 08:05

It's a plugin idea(only), not a real (i.e. already written) plugin.

Gaieus · 9 Jun 2009, 08:43

Then why are you teasing?

sepo · 9 Jun 2009, 10:48

It is all boll****.

steelers05 · 9 Jun 2009, 12:50

First, plugin idea would be great and Id love to see someone run with the idea.

Second, not to dwell on what has already been said, I want to speak a little towards this little SU discussion. I agree with several of you, that why would we start going after one another. One of greatest things about SU that no other program can match, is the community and the way everyone works together and shares. I would not be where I am today without this community and ones like the ASGvis and podium ones, and that is a credit to all of us and I thank you all. So there is no need to go after one another, even if there are differences in opinions. With that said, I am equally as frustrated as kwist, because I am at a point in my life, as I am sure many of you are, that time is crucial...Every day I go back and forth debating with myself to stick with SU or put time into learning 3ds max. Yeah being able to learn multiple programs is great and makes you more versatile, but It is frustating not knowing what to put my time, money, and energy into right now. If we knew that SU was going to try and at least develope things like "high poly support" then it would be less frustrating because I would know wat to invest my time into and what to stick with. But now I am stuck balancing both SU and max and that just makes everything that much more difficult. Honestly, it jsut seems like SU continues to be a tease to keep some people around and I have to admit that I am one of those that just cant manage to move on because it works too well with architecture. We all value our free time and nobody wants to put time into something that is never going to grow at a competetive rate and not to mention, we are talking about a lot of money for people to learn programs like this in offices. Plus, if anyone is like me, I want to put time into learning other things like web design or motion graphics and there is just so much out there that it would be nice to know what modeler to truely invest into.

One thing we do have to remember, and this could maybe explain some of the slow developement,.....SU is FREE. You can not overlook that. But, I would like to see them stop trying to convince people that SU pro is something different just because you pay for it. ITS THE SAME PROGRAM, but like everyone else, my office purchased it. It just seems like they are trying to get one over on people by making a pro version with littl-to-no extra features cost hundreds of dollars. And that is another reason I think people get frustrated....If we pay several hundred dollars on something, we should be able to rely on the developement team to competetively develope the product and not the users (google should be paying plenty of guys on this forum for keeping peoples' interest alive in this program, because how many of you would even be around if we didnt have plugins like FFD or freescale?...shout out to the developers, thanks )

Lastly, we cant get to offended with what is said on here. Some people have different opinions and they all need to be respected, and I have heard many others say far worse than anything that was mentioned in this thread, and many were quite funny. Lets just not lose that community that makes this program what it is.

OK I am done with my ranting & rambling...Hope I didnt upset anyone?

plot-paris · 9 Jun 2009, 21:06

hear, hear!

Fletch · 10 Jun 2009, 00:18

I've just seen the 3dvia vids... it is FREAKISHLY similar to SU... almost like they studied SU and copied many of it's modeling tools... wonder if there's some sort of lawsuit already started over this...

the deform plugin looks fun.

thomthom · 10 Jun 2009, 06:20

@fletch said:

I've just seen the 3dvia vids... it is FREAKISHLY similar to SU... almost like they studied SU and copied many of it's modeling tools... wonder if there's some sort of lawsuit already started over this...
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Why would there be lawsuits? Because SU finally has an direct competitor?

plot-paris · 10 Jun 2009, 06:50

indeed, the similarities are stunning. they didn't even bother do rename the push/pull tool!
but I do have to say, they are progressing in a direction, many of was want SketchUp to go. so please Google, have a look at that piece of software and nick as many ideas as possible (they did it with SU themselves)

thomthom · 10 Jun 2009, 07:16

@plot-paris said:

indeed, the similarities are stunning. they didn't even bother do rename the push/pull tool!

Again, I don't see why they should? It'd be as if all the 3D applications that has a Loft tool should have a different name for it.
If applications didn't build upon existing software - only included the tools they invented themself - we'd have some pretty crippled software now. Obsessing about who did it first is of no interest really. Who does it best is.

I really don't see why one would refer to it as stealing. More tools to choose from: more fun. The more the merrier I say.

B3D seem to still be a wee bit buggy - prone to crash. But I like what I see. It's photomatch is exactly what I've always been SU would have. And I like the amount of parametric abilities. If only it supported plugins via an easy scripting language...

plot-paris · 10 Jun 2009, 07:32

@thomthom said:

If applications didn't build upon existing software - only included the tools they invented themself - we'd have some pretty crippled software now. Obsessing about who did it first is of no interest really. Who does it best is.

of course you are absolutely right there, Thom.

rv1974 · 10 Jun 2009, 19:57

@unknownuser said:

Sketchup stoped in time about 5-6 years ago, and sometimes i, as a user, even feel i'm the bad guy for wanting it to evolve or at least allow me to do more than the previous version...

This is how 2009 looks like:http://www.zbrushcentral.com/zbc/showthread.php?t=071829

Chris Fullmer · 10 Jun 2009, 20:41

Z-brush is one of the few softwares that everytime I see it in action I think:

"I must be an idiot because I'm not using that software..."

dacad · 11 Jun 2009, 00:05

holly crap!! the guys at pixologic have done it again!!
Extremly inovative new stuff. But we're talking about the software that won two years in row the same "best software award" in 3D (don't remember the where's the article and who gave the award) with the same version of the software without updates...
It seems they're always ahead of the competition...