MAC: Getting Rid of Getting Started Toolbar

sorgesu · 5 Jun 2009, 16:30

I'm on PC teaching MAC people remotely. I can get them to open the "Large Tool Palette" but I can't get them to get rid of the Getting Started one. I thought that on the MAC you just "Drag" away (up and out) any tools that you don't want but that doesn't seem to be working for anyone.
Can any one give me a hand here? Many thanks.

bjanzen · 5 Jun 2009, 18:03

The "Welcome to SketchUp" panel? That has a check mark to always show on startup. Uncheck that. If someone every wants it back, it's under "displayWelcomeOnStartup", so "defaults delete com.google.sketchuppro7 displayWelcomeOnStartup" will reset it.

I don't have a "Getting Started" one under View->Tool Palettes. Maybe someone adding something; check Preferences->Extensions for added extensions.

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sorgesu · 5 Jun 2009, 18:54

No, not the Welcome window.
This is View>Toolbars in Windows.
When you first open SketchUp, whether it is the Free version or the Pro Version,
The only Tools are in Toolbar accross the top. It is " baby toolbar" with only the most often used tools in it. It is meant so that it isn't daunting for the new user. Accordingly it is called the "Getting Started" Toolbar in the View>Toolbars Menu for "Windows" In Window, all you do is UNCHECK it and it disappears. Instead we use the "Large Toolset" wich we Check. In Mac there is all this draggin going on to get the tool palettes in place.
So how do you get rid of them, any of them but most particularly the Gettting Started Toolset.

Gaieus · 5 Jun 2009, 19:01

Hi Barry,

I believe Susan is talking about what we (puny PC users) also have under View > Toolbars > Getting started (the top-most one).

Here is the toolbar itself (undocked)

Indeed, I haven't seen it for quite long "in action" myself.
Is there any place you can turn it off on the Mac (like uncheck in image 1 above on a PC)?

bjanzen · 5 Jun 2009, 19:16

Ah, I see. On Mac, all toolbars are turned off via the upper right gray button on all windows. Try it in ANY window with a toolbar: Finder, SketchUp, anything.

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bjanzen · 5 Jun 2009, 19:19

Oh, and right click on the toolbar and select "Customize Toolbar" for SketchUp (or any Mac application).

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sorgesu · 5 Jun 2009, 19:29

could I ask you for a screen shot of that upper right gray button?
Thanks so much for the help.

sorgesu · 5 Jun 2009, 19:31

YOu say there is one button. But I want other tools to be open and only the Getting started to go away. That is I want to pick and choose which toolbars stay. Surely there is more than one button?

jeff hammond · 5 Jun 2009, 20:29

if you're talking about the toolbar at the top of the window then either rightclick on the toolbar and choose 'customize' or go View->Customize Toolbar

a window will open showing every available tool icon, measurement box, google icons, etc...then you can do what you're talking about.. drag the tools you don't want out of the toolbar and they disappear as well. you can also drag any of the icons you want into the toolbar.. when finished, click 'done' in the lower right corner.

[edit] - ha, here's the same thing written in a more understandable manner
http://sketchup.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=70166

bjanzen · 5 Jun 2009, 20:40

How many buttons do you need? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00uDLRzJViE

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bjanzen · 5 Jun 2009, 20:58

Here's the image. If we can't figure it out from here, I think you need to go buy a Mac...

sorgesu · 5 Jun 2009, 23:44

jeff is understanding what I am talking about.
But b janzen I think maybe I wasn't making myself very clear, sorry.

I don't want to collapse the entire toolbar. I need the toolbar. It is just that some of the tools on it need to go. others need to stay. The button you are talking about appears to hide or collapse the the entire toolbar.
So, now, Jeff, if I am right and you are supposed to be able to drage away the "getting Started" toolbar, how come none of my MAC people are able to do so?
Any ideas?

sorgesu · 5 Jun 2009, 23:51

okay, I have re-read jeff's post.
Let me get this straight. They can't just start to drag, they need to "customize toolbar"
first When the window is open then they can drag the tool bar they don't want, away? Do they drag it back into the "window" with the tools or do they drag it up and out of the bar accross the top.
Thanks, sorry, see I don't find this intuitive at all.

Gaieus · 6 Jun 2009, 01:48

I'm also listening and lurking. Preparing to try out a Mac soon.

jeff hammond · 6 Jun 2009, 02:02

fwiw, this isn't a sketchup thing.. most OS X apps work like this so the mac user should already know how to do it..

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sorgesu · 6 Jun 2009, 02:06

Very Clear.Thanks Jeff for all the time and trouble you took.
Thanks everyone for all of your help.

bjanzen · 8 Jun 2009, 14:34

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sorgesu · 8 Jun 2009, 15:00

thanks but no thanks. I was asking for help, not sarcasm.

bjanzen · 10 Jun 2009, 19:28

That wasn't sarcasm.

bjanzen · 10 Jun 2009, 20:00

I worked for Apple. If you have a problem with iTunes, iMovie, etc... and you happen to get ahold of someone from Apple via phone or e-mail, want to know what their first response will be? Where's your nearest Apple Store. Really, you should try the Apple Store. It's free, educational, and you always learn something new every time you go in there.

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