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    • PixeroP Offline
      Pixero
      last edited by

      I'm looking into using Vue on a upcoming project and would like to hear any tips on good render settings for outdoor and indoor scenes.

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      • daleD Offline
        dale
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        Thanks Solo
        I downloaded the personal learning edition with the intention of giving Vue a shot, as I have seen some really nice work using the software.
        This will give me a chance to not stumble around, like I usually do when first trying a new program.
        You really have made a lot of astounding contributions to this forum, and I for one really appreciate all your work.

        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        • A Offline
          ark
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          I've had my eyes on VUE for a while now, and I'm looking forward to see what rendering quality it can produce!

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          • S Offline
            sliner
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            Two video about obj. export into Vue
            http://www.screencast.com/users/chippwalters/folders/Default/media/44c2b531-ce55-4f11-bb4d-c1730940803f
            http://www.screencast.com/users/chippwalters/folders/Default/media/08d7329d-deb0-40d4-b494-c6347e0787b2

            http://fancyquest.ru/albums/yucca/

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            • soloS Offline
              solo
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              Great post Sliner.

              Chipp Walters is the go to guy as far as Vue is concerned, he has done so much amazing work and developed many great solutions.
              He is also a member of our community. 😍 👍

              You can consider me an intermediate go to guy and him the real Guru.

              http://www.solos-art.com

              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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              • S Offline
                sliner
                last edited by

                This obj. exporter in the SU6 not working, I probably only 7 ...
                Also in SU is much easier to blow up and glue smaller components and groups that make up the model to export, because Vue they fall into many separate objects, which can be confusing ... and still have to glue them, but much more difficult in Vue, especially if the same material used in different structures.
                You can of course weld in Vue full model by materials, but then you can't edit or use a different design elements in other projects ...


                http://s44.radikal.ru/i106/0904/9c/6a0fc11440cbt.jpg

                http://fancyquest.ru/albums/yucca/

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                • Chris FullmerC Offline
                  Chris Fullmer
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                  So I've got a couple of questions Solo, what is the "ideal" workflow for alndscape architecture render. Model it all in SU, then add plats and environment in VUE? OR does it work better to just do the entire terrain in VUE and modeling in VUE? Or can I create the terrain in SU, take that into Vue and "texture" it with dirt, etc. Then build on that terrrin in SU and then export everything from SU on top of that terrain in VUE, and then add plants, environment, etc.? I am very interested in VUE, but I do have some concerns with the workflow. I wouldn't mind learning all the rendering and environment details in VUE (I have a bit of terragen and 3dsmax experience). I think I can learn that stuff. But i'd rather keep doing most of my modeling in Sketchup (like paths, planters, walls, bldgs, streets, etc).

                  Is that a sensical question or series of questions?

                  Assuming I get hired when I graduate in amonth or so, there's a good chance I'll be in charge of 3d modeling and rendering for the entire firm (120 people). And I'd love to provide a photo-real option to the company. Photoreal and landscape has always seemed so impossible, but I've liked what I've seen com out of VUE over the last few years.

                  Chris

                  Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                  All my Plugins I've written

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                  • soloS Offline
                    solo
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                    Chris,

                    There are landscapes and then there are LANDscapes, size and scale will dictate your workflow with Vue.
                    For a residential scale landscape one can compile the basic gradients in SU, even using SDS to transform the angular terrain into something more organic and flowing, you can also insert your hardscaping and do your basic texture mapping in SU for tweaking later in Vue.
                    Other stuff like potted plants and accessories can be imported later as needed using import layers in Vue.
                    Once you have imported your basic terrain into Vue you can start the texturing and UV mapping, make a point of using the layers in Vue as a model with millions of polygons as one can so easily accumulate in Vue with ecosysyems can be hidden in layers without lagging the workflow.
                    Then it's the fun part of compiling the scene by importing the other 'stuff' required for your scene, and possitioning iot as you need, make sure that the last thing you do is the atmosphere ajustments as that could slow down your render previews if they are very involved spectral, volumetric or even radiosity rich skies.
                    One thing that is great in Vue is the ability to render just the portions you need to see while setting up by dragging a render box around it and rendering to your final quality to see how certain materials, reflections or positions look before commiting to a full render.

                    For large terrain renders you could use a SU made terrain or import a point cloud into Vue to generate the terrain, or you could use a satalite image and generate a terrain even (but I need to get into that with a video tutorial)
                    Or you could use the terrain tools and sculp one as you need.

                    Populating Vue with vegetation is really cool with so many options and editors that anything is possible, you can create your own unique vegetation, import from vast libraries or use from 3rd party apps, Vue does not have a poly issue, ones rig may be limitted but Vue does not have a limit, so a decent machine is essential for scenes with 2 or more billion polygons, again this I will discuss in a few weeks time and make a list of ideal setups for optimal Vue experiances.

                    I hope this helped, please ask more if I missed the point.

                    http://www.solos-art.com

                    If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                    • Chris FullmerC Offline
                      Chris Fullmer
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                      That's a great intro for me for sure. I'm downloading the PLE right now to play with. OF course, its the last thing I need to be playing with right now. But oh well, it'll be fun 😄

                      Chris

                      Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                      All my Plugins I've written

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Well, this is what I've come up with Vue PLE so far:
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB-FszLeKoM
                        😳

                        Gai...

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
                          last edited by

                          Click on the link below to navigate to Geekatplay, this is the best Vue tutorial resource out there and it's free.
                          It starts from absolute noob to advanced all in video format.
                          http://www.geekatplay.com/vuetutorialsnew.php

                          favicon

                          (www.geekatplay.com)

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
                            last edited by

                            Hey, thats not bad at all Gaieus!

                            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                            All my Plugins I've written

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                            • GaieusG Offline
                              Gaieus
                              last edited by

                              Yeah. An almost empty scene and rendered somewhere between 1.5 and 2 hours 😮

                              Gai...

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                              • S Offline
                                sliner
                                last edited by

                                Not always so long, I do not know what it depends, but very quickly get renders with native SU textures, without bamps or displacements, which is still not visible in big sceens ...
                                forgot to say, default spectral atmosphere, global ambiens light, no clouds

                                http://s58.radikal.ru/i161/0904/8a/575a62aa4591t.jpg

                                http://fancyquest.ru/albums/yucca/

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                                • thomthomT Offline
                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by

                                  I just downloaded VUE Pioneer. Tried to look at the Kick Start Tutorial, but it keeps flickering and there's no audio.

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    hmmm... is the Pioneer version cut down? I mean to remember when I tried VUE in the past that they had ecosystem etc...

                                    Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • soloS Offline
                                      solo
                                      last edited by

                                      Oh yea, Pioneer is a basic version, without most of the bells and whistles, they have a new trick, you can buy modules as you need until you have them all and your version becomes the Vue Complete as that's all Complete is, Pioneer with all the added modules.
                                      However you cannot upgrade from Complete to infinite or xstream (heads up), I use Vue 7.2 infinity.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                      • K Offline
                                        Khai
                                        last edited by

                                        has anyone tried the Skp import in Vue 7 Esprit / Addon 3D import Pack ( http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue/vue_7_esprit/?page=3dimport ) yet?

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                                        • soloS Offline
                                          solo
                                          last edited by

                                          Yes, it works fine, I cannot talk for SU7 as I still prefer to use SU6 pro and there is no problem with the .skp importer.

                                          http://www.solos-art.com

                                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            @solo said:

                                            Oh yea, Pioneer is a basic version, without most of the bells and whistles, they have a new trick, you can buy modules as you need until you have them all and your version becomes the Vue Complete as that's all Complete is, Pioneer with all the added modules.
                                            However you cannot upgrade from Complete to infinite or xstream (heads up), I use Vue 7.2 infinity.

                                            So Pioneer isn't really the best to try out VUE then? If there any way to play with all the bells and whistles?

                                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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