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  • H Offline
    herodes
    last edited by 9 Oct 2008, 17:17

    As it seems, the EntitiesObserver.OnElementAdded receives two arguments...

    The first argument is an Entities class (sort of like an array) that contains all the all the Entity objects in the model.
    The second argument is the Entity that was added and thus triggered the call to the Observer mechanism.

    Give the following a spin,... It should explain itself in the Ruby Console...

    class ObsTest < Sketchup;;EntitiesObserver
    	def onElementAdded(entities, last_entity_created)
    		i=0
    		entities.each{|entity|
    			puts "entity[#{i}]; #{entity.class}"
    			i+=1
    		}
    		puts "entities ; #{entities.class}"
    		puts "last_entity_created ; #{last_entity_created.class}"
       end
    end
    
    Sketchup.active_model.active_entities.add_observer(ObsTest.new)
    

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    • M Offline
      Matt666
      last edited by 9 Oct 2008, 19:34

      Aaah thank you Herodes !!!

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      • M Offline
        Matt666
        last edited by 10 Oct 2008, 06:19

        Hi !
        This very (very) little script below works fine with entities created with native SketchUp tools...

        class EntitiesObsTest < Sketchup;;EntitiesObserver
        	def onElementAdded(ents,e)
        		puts "Last entity created ; #{e.class}"
        	end
        end
        def observerTest
        	Sketchup.active_model.entities.add_observer(EntitiesObsTest.new)
        end
        

        But when I try to create some entities with mirror script, or create a line with ToolsOnSurface script, SU generate a bug splat !!
        Can you help me again, please ?

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        • H Offline
          herodes
          last edited by 10 Oct 2008, 06:56

          I would suggest trying something using the ModelObserver.OnTransactionEnd function. See it here

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          ]

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          • R Offline
            RickW
            last edited by 10 Oct 2008, 07:39

            You need to prevent the observer from doing anything when using a ruby to modify the geometry, otherwise you will get the bug splat every time (at least in my experience). Google is aware of the issue.

            Herodes' suggestion may work as well (or in addition).

            RickW
            [www.smustard.com](http://www.smustard.com)

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              Matt666
              last edited by 24 Oct 2008, 06:02

              @unknownuser said:

              Google is aware of the issue.

              Hi Rick ! Ok, that's not a code problem !! πŸ˜„

              @unknownuser said:

              I would suggest trying something using the ModelObserver.OnTransactionEnd function. See it here

              Hi Herodes !
              Thank you for your help. But I don't understand how to use this observer... Do you have any example, please?

              Thank you !!

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              • M Offline
                Matt666
                last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 08:19

                Hi!
                Sorry for the delay! And sorry for all these questions below 😳
                I dig up this old post. Rick, you said observer must do nothing when entity is modified/created by ruby. 😲 Is it the only solution? πŸ˜•

                @unknownuser said:

                Google is aware of the issue.
                And they found a work around? or else? Do you have some news? πŸ˜‰

                I am writing a ruby that push each entity in a layer by its typename. First it moves all existing entities, and next it uses an entity observer to move each new entity into its layer. Naturally (and sadly) it bugs with entities created by ruby...
                SU 7 has same bug.. Do you have any other solution, please? 😞 I don't understand Herodes suggestion... What ModelObserver.OnTransactionEnd can do?

                PS: I've attached a code that shows the problem. Load it and enter Test.start_E in the console. Let console opened. Script puts each entity's class. It works great with native drawing tools. But It bugs with ruby drawing tools (like Fredo6's Tools on surface).


                EntitiesObserverTest.rb

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 08:47

                  Check out the new APi docs instead: http://code.google.com/intl/nb/apis/sketchup/docs/ourdoc/modelobserver.html

                  ModelObserver.OnTransactionEnd doesn't exist as you see in the new docs. I also poked around in the class just to make sure it was missed from the docs, and this is the only events:

                  
                  onActivePathChanged
                  onAfterComponentSaveAs
                  onBeforeComponentSaveAs
                  onDeleteModel
                  onEraseAll
                  onExplode
                  onPlaceComponent
                  onSaveModel
                  onTransactionAbort
                  onTransactionCommit
                  onTransactionEmpty
                  onTransactionRedo
                  onTransactionStart
                  onTransactionUndo
                  
                  

                  On a sidenote: I've come across a few observers that doesn't work. I've reported them in this thread: http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=17047

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 08:51

                    I think ModelObserver.onTransactionCommit is the event you want.

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • M Offline
                      Matt666
                      last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 09:47

                      Hi thomthom! And thank you for your quisk answers! πŸ˜„

                      I have a matter with all onTransaction.... I don't know how to use them... 😳
                      The problem is I get a bug splat with because of entities created/modified by ruby. Why can these functions (onTransaction...) help me???
                      Therefore, The questions are :

                      • Is these functions can stop bug splat with Test.start_E?
                      • Can I return class of an entity modified/created by ruby, qith entity-observers functions?

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                      • thomthomT Offline
                        thomthom
                        last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 10:27

                        You can use that to detect when a plugin starts and commits and operation. Holding of your own actions until the operation is complete. If I understand this right, that's what might be causing the problems.

                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                        • M Offline
                          Matt666
                          last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 12:18

                          Ok, thank you Thomthom. I see how these functions could help me.

                          I try with code below, and none of onTransaction... functions works... Is it normal... Am I stupid? πŸ˜„
                          I really really don't understand the matter...
                          Can you help me thomthom, please???

                          Thank you!


                          EntitiesObserverTest.rb

                          Frenglish at its best !
                          My scripts

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by 2 Apr 2009, 12:54

                            I haven't used the transaction events myself yet. Can't give an answer from the top of my head. I'd have to poke around first. I hope they are all working. I thought they might be useful for a plugin I'm doing myself.

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                            • M Offline
                              Matt666
                              last edited by 3 Apr 2009, 07:32

                              Ok thank you thomthom! I'm trying with other ways, I'll tell you if they work...
                              πŸ˜‰

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                              • H Offline
                                HPW
                                last edited by 3 Apr 2009, 13:47

                                Are the here metioned observers helpfull to get a OnImport event?
                                I would be intrerested to start a houskeeping script whenever I import one of our Autocad.DWG
                                (Making a layer purge/layer switching and building groups from hierarchy-info contained in blocknames)

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                                • TIGT Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 3 Apr 2009, 14:45

                                  @hpw said:

                                  Are the here metioned observers helpfull to get a OnImport event?
                                  I would be intrerested to start a houskeeping script whenever I import one of our Autocad.DWG
                                  (Making a layer purge/layer switching and building groups from hierarchy-info contained in blocknames)

                                  Sounds like your rewriting parts of my XrefManager for me ?

                                  TIG

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                                  • H Offline
                                    HPW
                                    last edited by 3 Apr 2009, 19:11

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Sounds like your rewriting parts of my XrefManager for me ?

                                    Nope, we have a block-structure of artikels with a master-slave relation ship build on EED-Data which gets lost during export/import. (As far as I know, or does Sketchup supports EED?)
                                    And it would make sense to rebuild the structure on a group-base.
                                    I found your nice ComponentReporter+.rb here and get the list of imported components.
                                    Now I have to start with ruby (My main language ist still autolisp) and have to parse the component-names to lists and get some group building code to work with the components which belong to the new group (which then must be named with the same name as the first entry).

                                    So still lots to learn!

                                    Hans-Peter

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                                    • TIGT Offline
                                      TIG Moderator
                                      last edited by 4 Apr 2009, 09:02

                                      Almost anything in SUp can be given 'attributes' =~ 'extended data' ?
                                      You could export the blocks' xdata from AutoCAD using AutoLisp: putting it into a .csv file that'd list the block-name/instance/location/xdata etc...
                                      Then you could write a matching Ruby to use on it later...
                                      After importing the AutoCAD file, its various blocks will come in as components - they should keep the same names and relative positions etc.
                                      Run the Ruby on the corresponding .csv file and add the xdata into each matching component-definition/instance as attributes.
                                      If the blocks interact you need to write a Ruby that perhaps 'observes' instances and finds/reads/writes the appropriate corresponding attributes and takes the required actions etc etc...
                                      At least if you have AutoLisp experience exporting the xdata in a usable format for Ruby would be relatively straightforward...

                                      TIG

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                                        HPW
                                        last edited by 4 Apr 2009, 11:46

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        At least if you have AutoLisp experience exporting the xdata in a usable format for Ruby would be relatively straightforward...

                                        Thanks for your thoughts about extending such interface.
                                        I had thought about this for myself, but I have to make steps one after another.
                                        So first I want to get the structure in place again and then I can thought about adding/transporting more Info.
                                        The AutoLisp experience is not the problem, since I am a nearly full-time autolisp-developer and I am really used to do anything with ExtendedEntityData.

                                        We have logical propertys and geometric propertys stored in EED and even small chunks of Lisp-code stored there, which gets fired under certain events.

                                        So I can imagine I could do similar things in the future with ruby.

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