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    • J Offline
      johnsenior1973
      last edited by

      My first impression on seeing the $500 price confirmed is that Bonzai won't be on my computer for much longer.

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      • S Offline
        Sheik
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        500 would be about 10% of the price of AutoCad, and half of Rhino. I think it is a fair price.
        It is less than an architect would charge for a day, so I tink it is not too big an investment.
        But SketchUp free is free, so no cometition there....

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        • K Offline
          kwistenbiebel
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          @johnsenior1973 said:

          My first impression on seeing the $500 price confirmed is that Bonzai won't be on my computer for much longer.

          I agree with Sheik that 500 dollars is a fair price for a modeling suite.

          However, after trying the beta, I am not convinced it would become my modeler of choice.
          It hasn't got the intuitive approach Sketchup has (3 selection tools etc...).
          On the other hand, maybe when practicing more ....
          Having Nurbs is the way to go, so that is definitely an advantage.

          A disadvantage is that there doesn't seem to be an animation option and no link to 3td party major render engines. But I guess those can be added in a later phase. However, making a render plugin takes a lot of time so I reckon a year later would be the time to judge again.

          That is the beauty of Sketchup πŸ‘ : all the high end render engines are already available, a big community, a great model resource with a lot of potential a.k.a 3d warehouse, a large professional user base because of the existance of both a free and Pro version..... a lousy developer though πŸ‘Ž

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          • X Offline
            xrok1
            last edited by

            i think at this point the plugins and the community are what makes SK what it is. just try and imagine using it without any plugins; ouch πŸ‘Š . BTW, thankyou every ruby master out there. that being said, there's really no way for anyone to ever replace that that.period, full stop

            Google should be on there knee's to the people that really make SK what it is! IMHO 😳

            β€œThere are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.”

            http://www.Twilightrender.com try it!

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              dazza
              last edited by

              @xrok1 said:

              i think at this point the plugins and the community are what makes SK what it is. just try and imagine using it without any plugins; ouch πŸ‘Š . BTW, thankyou every ruby master out there. that being said, there's really no way for anyone to ever replace that that.period, full stop

              Google should be on there knee's to the people that really make SK what it is! IMHO 😳

              I couldn't agree with you more πŸ‘

              All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.

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                Gaieus
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                @kwistenbiebel said:

                Do you guys use an auto responder? πŸ˜„
                I saw the exact same text in the other Bonzai thread.

                Probably Pilou is right... πŸ˜„

                Well, I merge the threads anyway...

                Gai...

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                  bonzai3d support
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                  @plot-paris said:

                  when I had a look at the beta of Bonsai 3D, I was a bit shocked - because that little application showed me how limited SketchUp really is. in the few moments between crashes of Bonsai 3D tools such as the 'bend tool' the 'round edges' tool or the 'twist tool', alongside with the truly fantastic real-time boolean operations (that are so much cleverer than what SU does), showed quite plainly how far SketchUp still has to go.πŸ˜•

                  Gentlemen,

                  We have now released the third update to bonzai3d. This update focuses on stability issues, and it should now be in much better shape. If you would like to try it, visit the bonzai3d web site (also still under construction) here:

                  favicon

                  (www.bonzai3d.com)

                  We have also released a number of introductory videos that you can view to see if you want to try it.

                  We hope you like it. If you have any feedback, please don't hesitate to contact us.

                  support@bonzai3d.com

                  Explore * Design * Deliver
                  http://www.bonzai3d.com
                  Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                    bonzai3d support
                    last edited by

                    Gentlemen,

                    We have now released the third update to bonzai3d. This update focuses on stability issues, and it should now be in much better shape. If you would like to try it, visit the bonzai3d web site (also still under construction) here:

                    favicon

                    (www.bonzai3d.com)

                    We have also released a number of introductory videos that you can view to see if you want to try it.

                    We hope you like it. If you have any feedback, please don't hesitate to contact us.

                    support@bonzai3d.com

                    Explore * Design * Deliver
                    http://www.bonzai3d.com
                    Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      I had crashing issues before, but it's been working with the latest update. Even on Windows 7 beta.
                      But I can't get the Place Window tool to work properly. The viewport goes all haywire when I try to use it. it zooms way into the model when I activate that tool.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      • IdahoJI Offline
                        IdahoJ
                        last edited by

                        So far my sessions with Bonzai3D have been:

                        open crash
                        open crash
                        open crash...

                        This is on an XP-64 OS, AMD 9950 x4 BE 2.6GHz CPU, 8Gb RAM running an ATi 4870 PCI-X card with ATi Catalyst 8.11 drivers.

                        [EDITED by IdahoJ -- Some comments were not constructive.]

                        "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."

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                          bonzai3d support
                          last edited by

                          IdahoJ,

                          This behavior is definitely not normal, and crash issues should now be fairly isolated. Do you get the crash just launching, or do you need to do something else afterwards to cause the crash?

                          And did you make sure to install the Microsoft vcredist.exe component?

                          ThomThom,

                          There is a known issue with Place Content with Metric units that can cause a zoom problem on some systems. We are working to get this corrected, but if you go to Edit: Preferences: Language, and select English Units, you can then test the Place Content without this problem.

                          support@bonzai3d.com

                          Explore * Design * Deliver
                          http://www.bonzai3d.com
                          Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
                            last edited by

                            @bonzai3d support said:

                            There is a known issue with Place Content with Metric units that can cause a zoom problem on some systems. We are working to get this corrected, but if you go to Edit: Preferences: Language, and select English Units, you can then test the Place Content without this problem.

                            support@bonzai3d.com

                            I see. Thanks for the tip.
                            Looking forward to the metric fix. And the Right-click-draw-blank-viewport fix. πŸ˜„
                            btw, When changing the language the messagebox said that the settings won't take effect until "formZ" is restarted... πŸ˜‰

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              bonzai3d support
                              last edited by

                              @unknownuser said:

                              ...And the Right-click-draw-blank-viewport fix. πŸ˜„

                              Due to some OpenGL issues on Vista, it may be necessary to turn off Desktop Composition with some graphics cards. The symptom of this problem is that when the context menu (right click) is selected in a modeling window, the window will draw blank while the mouse button is pressed. We are working on a solution for this.

                              support@bonzai3d.com

                              Explore * Design * Deliver
                              http://www.bonzai3d.com
                              Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                Ecuadorian
                                last edited by

                                I find it quite strange that in 2009 a piece of software can have trouble with metric but work OK with imperial.... After all, back in 1958 Imperial units were re-defined as a function of metric units; they no longer have their own special definition.

                                So all software should be designed to work internally in metric, and use Imperial only for input/display purposes if the user needs it.

                                Some three weeks ago SketchUp saved my life as we were measuring a parking lot and the longest measuring tape we had was in feet and inches, but the shortest, easier to handle one had both English and metric units, and I needed to print the result in metric. In SU, you don't need to do any switching, simply type any unit you want.

                                -Miguel Lescano
                                Subscribe to my house plans YouTube channel! (30K+ subs)

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                                • IdahoJI Offline
                                  IdahoJ
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Postby bonzai3d support on Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:23 am
                                  IdahoJ,

                                  This behavior is definitely not normal, and crash issues should now be fairly isolated. Do you get the crash just launching, or do you need to do something else afterwards to cause the crash?

                                  And did you make sure to install the Microsoft vcredist.exe component?

                                  Crashes on launch and I have both the 64 and 32 bit MSVC++ 2005 Redistributable v8.0.56336 installed.

                                  Cheers.

                                  "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."

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                                    bonzai3d support
                                    last edited by

                                    IdahoJ,

                                    We have seen a few "windows customization" settings that have caused problems in the past. We have fixed these with the latest update (bonzai3d indicates build 7218 at startup, right) but it is certainly possible that there is still a problem we have not seen yet. If you logon as Guest, do you still have this problem? Or if you change your Theme to a standard "Windows Theme" -- does this prevent the crash?

                                    If not, can you email a screen capture showing the bonzai3d startup window as well as the crash message so we can look into this further?

                                    support@bonzai3d.com

                                    Explore * Design * Deliver
                                    http://www.bonzai3d.com
                                    Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                    • IdahoJI Offline
                                      IdahoJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @bonzai3d support said:

                                      IdahoJ,

                                      We have seen a few "windows customization" settings that have caused problems in the past. We have fixed these with the latest update (bonzai3d indicates build 7218 at startup, right) but it is certainly possible that there is still a problem we have not seen yet. If you logon as Guest, do you still have this problem? Or if you change your Theme to a standard "Windows Theme" -- does this prevent the crash?

                                      If not, can you email a screen capture showing the bonzai3d startup window as well as the crash message so we can look into this further?

                                      support@bonzai3d.com

                                      I'll see what I can do guys. I've already removed it from my system...

                                      Cheers.

                                      "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        hum hum πŸ˜„


                                        error.jpg

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                          bonzai3d support
                                          last edited by

                                          Pilou,

                                          This is a strange error. We tried 100 similar operations, and they all worked properly. If you repeat your test, do you repeat the problem?

                                          If so, can you save and send the BNZ file to us so we can investigate this further?

                                          (Thanks in advance.)

                                          support@bonzai3d.com

                                          Explore * Design * Deliver
                                          http://www.bonzai3d.com
                                          Version 2.5 Now Available!

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            No repetitive problem but now it's after a copy !
                                            Here you find the file πŸ˜„ (before the difference)
                                            Difference A - B
                                            cyl2.jpg


                                            cyl01.zip

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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