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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Hi Dale,

      The two faces of the wall aren't parallel. You need to have two parallel faces for the PP tool to cut the other opening as well.

      Have a look at tha attached version of your model; I didn't change anything but set the axes along one of the edges of the wall and changed the style to display edges by axis. The black edge on the other side of the wall indicates that the two edges are not parallel - thus the two faces aren't either.


      OffAxis.skp

      Gai...

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      • daleD Offline
        dale
        last edited by

        Thanks once again Gaieus. I should have suspected that, as most Cad files have problems with parallel and joints etc. Thats 2 today. I'm going to have to owe you a beer on this.

        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Okay, Canadian beer is fine.No US beer tho πŸ˜‰

          Gai...

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          • B Offline
            bubbalove
            last edited by

            Woah now... what you got against US beer Gaieus?

            "Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." - Churchill

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            • daleD Offline
              dale
              last edited by

              Just for you then....


              Picture 2.jpg

              Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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              • daleD Offline
                dale
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                Woah now... what you got against US beer Gaieus?

                It's all about alcohol content πŸ˜„

                Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                • GaieusG Offline
                  Gaieus
                  last edited by

                  @dale said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Woah now... what you got against US beer Gaieus?

                  It's all about alcohol content πŸ˜„

                  Not only... I'm not Canadian but let me quote a Canadian saying: "American beer is just like making love in a canoe - f*ing close to water..." πŸ˜’

                  Gai...

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                  • B Offline
                    bubbalove
                    last edited by

                    Ahhh yes... do you really think that most Americans care about taste when all they're trying to do is get drunk off of it anyway? Now I have a couple friends that won't drink American beer so they go to these specialty stores to get beer from over seas but I don't see why anyone would want to pay that much for 'good' beer. I'll stick to my Budweiser, hasn't failed me yet!

                    "Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." - Churchill

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                      Double Espresso
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                      It's all about alcohol content πŸ˜„[/quote]
                      Not only... I'm not Canadian but let me quote a Canadian saying: "American beer is just like making love in a canoe - f*ing close to water..." πŸ˜’[/quote]

                      Where do you think the term 'P*ss Drunk' originated?
                      Personally, I prefer my 'bud' in a different form.

                      Now, this is scary...I'm stickin' with java.
                      Budweiser.jpg

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                      • honoluludesktopH Offline
                        honoluludesktop
                        last edited by

                        Dale, What is interesting is that you are having this problem after you switched from v6 to v7. Did you change anything about the way you built the model that produced the dxf? If so you might be able to find a solution.

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                        • C Offline
                          caddict
                          last edited by

                          I have noticed this problem since changing to version 7. The dxfs are exported from Cycas. I never had the problem with v6, but I've noticed it recently on the occasional wall. Could be a rounding issue with the dxf importer? just guessing.

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                          • GaieusG Offline
                            Gaieus
                            last edited by

                            Have you tried to import this exact file in SU 6?
                            In fact the "inaccuracy" is rather big in this case.

                            Gai...

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                            • thomthomT Offline
                              thomthom
                              last edited by

                              @caddict said:

                              I have noticed this problem since changing to version 7. The dxfs are exported from Cycas. I never had the problem with v6, but I've noticed it recently on the occasional wall. Could be a rounding issue with the dxf importer? just guessing.

                              Is the drawing located near origin, or is it drawn with world co-ordinates? If it's drawn in world co-ordinates it can cause problems for SU with inaccuracy. Whenever I import at dwg or dxf into SU I always make a copy of the dwg/dxf and move everything I want to the origin and do a purge and audit in AutoCAD for safe measure.

                              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              • plot-parisP Offline
                                plot-paris
                                last edited by

                                to get back to the original topic of this thread 🀣

                                Gaieus, how strong is the average beer in Hungary? I ask because I once heard that in Germany a beer is considered 'non-alcoholic' when it contains less than 0.5% of alcohol, whereas in Russia a beer with up to something like 5% is still 'non-alcoholic'.
                                now Hungary is about halfway from Germany to Russia. so I expect your beer to be quite strong. and therefore one Hungarian beer is equivalent to a lot more Buds... πŸ˜‰

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                                • GaieusG Offline
                                  Gaieus
                                  last edited by

                                  Well, the "weak", local lagers start at about 4.8-5%. Weaker than that doesn't even deserve the name "beer".

                                  Gai...

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @gaieus said:

                                    Well, the "weak", local lagers start at about 4.8-5%. Weaker than that doesn't even deserve the name "beer".

                                    Hear hear! πŸ˜„

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • daleD Offline
                                      dale
                                      last edited by

                                      I want to make it clear that excess beer consumption had nothing to do with my inability to cut the window hole πŸ˜†

                                      However, I was corrected by someone , who directed me to this sitehttp://www.fermentarium.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=291&Itemid=56

                                      Which has an explanation as to the way American and Canadian beers measure their alcohol content and this chart:


                                      Picture 5.jpg

                                      Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                      • daleD Offline
                                        dale
                                        last edited by

                                        Now, as for the dxf.

                                        Although I have found SU7 to be rather glitchy, I don't know if I can blame the problem on it. This dxf is from a colleague who actually uses Sopftplan, and to be quite honest, was one of the best dxf's I have received in terms of what had to be cleaned up in order to get things functioning well in SketchUp. The AutoCad drawings I get usually require a hell of a lot of review to be sure that walls meet, and are @ 90, or 45 degrees etc, etc. With them you should actually hook the computer directly to a 200 amp 240 volt circuit so that the "weld" ruby has a chance to work.
                                        Partially though, that is because of the abilities of the person creating the file, as one colleague used to say "Garbage in, Garbage out".
                                        Most of the walls in the file I had no problem with. The wall that gave me problems was on a 45 degree angle,if I remember correctly it was joined right at the corner with an interior wall that was a different thickness (2x4 vs 2x6), and probably the original Cad file joined them with this little discrepancy intact. Attached is a preliminary clay rendering I did of the file yesterday afternoon, so you can see that it worked out o.k.


                                        Unit B clay and Glass 1.jpg

                                        Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                                        • plot-parisP Offline
                                          plot-paris
                                          last edited by

                                          I agree with you, Dale. most problems with dxf files occur, because the person drawing it didn't have a clue of the snap-modes of his software. therefore many lines are simply not joined at corners.

                                          but one has to admit, that there is no program in the world (at least to my knowledge) with which it is as easy to actually join vertexes as with SketchUp with it's automatic snap modes and superb inferencing engine! and that is why we all love SketchUp!

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                                          • daleD Offline
                                            dale
                                            last edited by

                                            Absolutely, and thats why wI would love to be able to do all - Cad drawings to model to rendering in SketchUp.
                                            I often wonder why there seems to be some kind of protected turf when it comes to this.

                                            Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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