Profile Builder plugin- Problem- Help?
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Also just to let you know, The rest of the pugin works fine. But as you can imagin the plugin becomes considerably less efficient if you can't see the profiles.
Im hoping to enlist the help of someone who studied java at uni to see if he can spot something that perhapse you guys cant see without being infront of my computer/(can't comunicate to me)
I would also appreciate, if anyone does manage to work this problem out -what to do stage by stage in good old fashioned Yorkshire language
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I find this very interesting. I don't use IE at all. I use Firefox.
I have not downloaded this Ruby. From the discussion in this thread
I understand it may be related to a version of IE.This raises a few questions:
Why are we developing Webdialogs to make Rubies Run ?
Why are Ruby Programmers using this technique, when they can't
guarantee that their code will work with future versions of IE.?
unless they see this as a continuing revenue stream, for future versions.
Why are we going down the "being dependent on what Microsoft may or may not do in the future"?Please don't shoot the messenger I'm only asking a few questions.
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@tomot said:
I find this very interesting. I don't use IE at all. I use Firefox.
None the less, your computer have IE. It's integrated with the OS as the IE engine isn't used for the the Ie browser, but also as a platform which is used in applications such as the HTML help files etc.
I have not downloaded this Ruby. From the discussion in this thread
I understand it may be related to a version of IE.This raises a few questions:
@tomot said:
Why are we developing Webdialogs to make Rubies Run ?
To make an UI for the plugins so they are easier to use. The choice of HTML+CSS+JS was probably chosen as it meant there's already a great number of people capable of producing it.
@tomot said:
Why are Ruby Programmers using this technique, when they can't
guarantee that their code will work with future versions of IE.?Can't be guaranteed to work with future versions if they'd choosen the Mozilla engine or any other engine either. But MS is generally good at providing backwards compatibility.
@tomot said:
unless they see this as a continuing revenue stream, for future versions.
Why are we going down the "being dependent on what Microsoft may or may not do in the future"?If not them, then we'll be dependant on another company.
@tomot said:
Please don't shoot the messenger I'm only asking a few questions.
No firearm here.
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Cecil, I would suggest you uninstall the update of Internet Explorer 8 Beta.
I just tried it, and it worked - ProfileBuilder's preview shows the profiles again!
of course that is only a temporary solution (for we don't want to keep an old version of IE simply because of this compatibility issue). but for the time being. thus you can at least use this marvelous plugin and don't have to refund it.
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Has anyone tried adding the compatibility tag to the webdialogs?
It's help to know if it's due to changes in rendering or changes in security settings.
What method is used to draw the profile? SVG?
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Well, I don't want to sound like ranting about MS products so I only note that IE 8 is still Beta and any changes they made in the core hasn't been able to be followed by other developers dependent on MS products.
In fact, the same goes (or at least went) for IE 7 and webdialogs or Vista vs. XP with web dialogs when they were first applied / these versions of IE / OS came in. It's always a compatibility step behind the development and I'm sure thsese issues will be sorted out in later SU maintenance releases.
Now there have been serious discussions about which browser to support by SU. Since IE is part of the Windows OS anyway (thus present on every computer), it seems obvious that it needs to be supported, not Firefox for instance which is not used by everyone. With Google Chrome now available, there have even been suggestions to integrate it into SU thus making it more intact in development but the reasoning hasn't been convincing enough yet.
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@plot-paris said:
Cecil, I would suggest you uninstall the update of Internet Explorer 8 Beta.
I just tried it, and it worked - ProfileBuilder's preview shows the profiles again!
of course that is only a temporary solution (for we don't want to keep an old version of IE simply because of this compatibility issue). but for the time being. thus you can at least use this marvelous plugin and don't have to refund it.
Yes, I suggest you do the same, Stuart. For Internet browsing, most people recommend using Firefox anyway (which I have heard is more secure). I tried downloading IE8 and had the same issue as you. I could not get it to work by modifying security settings so it seems like it is a compatibilty issue with IE8 or the javascript library that I use to draw the profile preview. I have tried to contact the creator of the javascript library and am waiting for a reply.
Let's hope this gets resolved while IE8 is still in beta.
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What library is it Dale?
I was thinking; for future versions, using SVG files for the profiles? (XML based) Then people can open the profiles in other applications and you can use the .svg itself as a preview in the webdialog. Also, using .svg might make it easier to display thumbnails of profiles in Explorer/Finder?
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Cursed! I thought IE7 had added .svg support. But no...
it needs a plugin for that.How annoying. I had plans for making plugins using .svg graphics...
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Well ive just uninstalled IE8, and yes the profile has appeared! thank god! and thank you all for your help!
I would of liked to have tried to add the tagg to my webdialog before I uninstalled, but I dont know how to
If you could give me step by step instructions I will reinstall IE8 and give it a go because some webpages require IE8 to view (why I upgraded in the first place)thanks again!
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I'm running Windows 7 at the moment, which means IE8, and I will have a look at this to see if I can make some sense out of it.
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@unknownuser said:
because some webpages require IE8 to view (why I upgraded in the first place)
You have GOT to be kidding. A website requires a beta version of a web browser to be viewed??
Only a Microsoft website would be that stupid. 
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@whaat said:
@unknownuser said:
because some webpages require IE8 to view (why I upgraded in the first place)
You have GOT to be kidding. A website requires a beta version of a web browser to be viewed?? Only a Microsoft website would be that stupid. That's a clear proof of some corporations merely ignoring web standard. I wonder how big the traffic of such a website will be. I even somply exit any website (without bothering to launch in any version of IE) which doesn't run on other browsers. Such a website simply cannot be professional (supposdly even as far as content goes) enough to be worth visiting.
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Dale & All
I get a profile but no origin (red dot) ref.
Back to IE 6 and thank you Microsoft for the "New and Improved"
Dave
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I just downloaded the latest Windows Update (for Vista) which also includes Internet Explorer 8 RC1. The issue seems to be now resolved! Profile previews work perfect for me. Can anyone else confirm?
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ProfileBuilder under Windows 7 Beta with Internet Explorer 8 Beta works fine...
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In regards to the preview in PB, what about using Flash to draw it? That's supported on all platforms.
And if you make the whole dialog in flash, then you don't have to worry about how different browers render it.
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