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      pibuz
      last edited by

      Hi guys, thank you!
      Yes, the picture is leaning to the wall on the far corner, but i see it's not so noticeable ๐Ÿ˜‰
      I personally don't mind too much to wait a little more, at the moment: perhaps i've never been in such a hurry to compel me to wish for 30mins renders, THANK GOD! BTW, a couple of times I happened to be in a little hurry, but i simply ran Indigo in cooperative mode through the LAN of my office, and it all went just fine: rendertimes were still huge, but consistently shorter than a one-pc process..
      I'm not a fan of long rendering times, to tell the truth to you guys: it's just that Indigo integrates itself so well into my SketchUp workflow, that now I fell a little uncomfortable working with other systems: I think it's a sort of cursed addiction ๐Ÿ˜’


      An update: testing a wood floor..
Not so convinced...

      WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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        pugz1983
        last edited by

        Very nice renders and scene. Could you post the scene? Im looking for a good test scene for indigo and Fryrender. Your scene would be great.

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          pibuz
          last edited by

          Glad to be of any help!
          I post you the link only if you promise you will post your results in this topic! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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          (www.box.net)

          Oh: if you use Indigo stable release, this scene is ready-to-render!
          Only, be careful to apdate the paths for the nkData-based materials..
          Perhaps you won't be able to use the IES lights, though.. ๐Ÿ˜’

          EDIT
          I attach here the IES file I used in the scene: just download it and load its right path in the sketch mat named IES!


          IES file.rar

          WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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            kwistenbiebel
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            Thank you for sharing the scene and the nice renders Pibuz.
            You are really mastering Skindigo and the scene setup is spot on.

            @pibuz said:

            ..
            I post you the link only if you promise you will post your results in this topic! ๐Ÿ˜‰

            Okidoki. ๐Ÿ˜„
            I gave it a try in Vray and produced a second shot as well. Both took about 15 minutes to render (Octocore).
            For the spotlights I used a bitmap emitting material instead of IES. I believe IES is the best solution for these things though.
            You're right about Skindigo being such a good partner to Sketchup. The setup can be so lightning fast...

            http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/view1-1.jpg

            http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/view2-1.jpg

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              pibuz
              last edited by

              Hi Kwisten! happy to hear you!! ๐Ÿ˜„
              I noticed that your renders look more real than mines! So, now with a comparison, i can see what's wrong and maybe adjust a few things. This is what i call a constructive posting! ๐Ÿ˜„
              Maybe overexposing something isn't such a bad affair, as I tend to think.. And a lighter atmosphere won't harm either..
              Fine! Something learned!

              I'm experiencing troubles with the indoor plants: they're not convincing at all ๐Ÿ˜ก
              I'll try to substitute them with other objects...

              Thank you Kwisten for posting!

              WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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                notareal
                last edited by

                Looks good. Thanks for sharing the scene. I think it will find good use.

                Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                  kwistenbiebel
                  last edited by

                  @pibuz said:

                  Maybe overexposing something isn't such a bad affair, as I tend to think.. And a lighter atmosphere won't harm either..

                  I think the most important thing is that your image has a wide range going from full white 255,255,255 to full black 0,0,0.
                  That doesn't always mean the image would be overexposed (unless it is the effect you are after).
                  Overexposed would be having too much areas in the image going full 255,255,255 white.

                  I tried to reproduce what I mean:
                  The following image isn't overexposed but it does contain full black ( shadow part of chair/shelves) and full white (a small strip of white in the picture frame).

                  http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/view3-2.jpg

                  Another example:
                  Although the next image has a soft and warm mood, there is still enough contrast between light and dark.(light range going from full black (small shadow parts on the chair) to full white (small parts of the reflections on the bowls and chrome).

                  http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r3/kwistenbiebel1/view4-1.jpg

                  The best tool to control the light range in Photoshop is the 'levels' tool , but I know you know that ๐Ÿ˜„
                  I don't think there is anything wrong with your image when it concerns light by the way.

                  Unbiased render engines do seem to have trouble to control the midtone contrast. Using Reinhard tonemapping helps a bit (clamping the overexposed/underexposed areas), but somehow Reinhard does seem to reduce the realism a little by flattening the midtones a little too much).
                  The linear (and exponential tonemapping) presets provide a great sense of realism but your images are easily overexposed or underexposed and with a too steep lighting 'curve' ,meaning that there is not much of a gradient between the lightest and darkest colors.
                  The 'curves' tool in Photoshop can fix this.

                  Another thing: When your RAW render output is heavily overexposed or underexposed, you might not be able to correct it in Photoshop as the image misses information as too much areas went full white or black.
                  So you're better of with a raw image that lacks some contrast which is much easier to fix in Photoshop.

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                    crc
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for that Kwisten, very informative.
                    I was wondering if you would post your scene with out post-pro. It would help in seeing the difference and, for me, in interpreting what you mean. For some reason (I don;t really know why) I almost never use PS for my Indigo renders.๐Ÿ˜’

                    I'm going to take some and use what you said.

                    and thanks for the scene Pibuz!(crojack from the Indigo forum)

                    http://www.motoclip.net

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                      chango70
                      last edited by

                      Why are there patterns on wall?

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                        princedragoncok
                        last edited by

                        @chango70 said:

                        Why are there patterns on wall?

                        Hey, here's the scene setup:

                        http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p420/princedragoncok/scenastudiolegno.jpg

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                          princedragoncok
                          last edited by

                          Nice test scene Pibuz, thanks! v.nice renders too Kwistenbiebel.
                          Here are my attempts with Hypershot, around 20mins each, two cores. Thing with Hypershot is that you can't use the native su sun, so I had to get as close as possible with a hdri.

                          http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p420/princedragoncok/mood2.jpg

                          http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p420/princedragoncok/envi2.jpg

                          http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p420/princedragoncok/enviro.jpg

                          http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p420/princedragoncok/enviro1.jpg

                          http://i346.photobucket.com/albums/p420/princedragoncok/mood.jpg

                          Who likes what best and why?

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                            rcossoli
                            last edited by

                            I encourage my
                            This image was made with kerkyhea, 2000x1200 image original size.
                            rendering in method number 11 with 2 nucleos, an athlon 64x2 4800 and 2 GB of RAM.
                            Approximate time 40 minutes.


                            4.jpg

                            THREEDIMENSIONSWEB dot COM

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                              stefanq
                              last edited by

                              Nice stuff here, guys!
                              Kwisten, top class renders, I try it myself, but your renders are just perfect!

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                                pibuz
                                last edited by

                                I'm going on modifying the things i'm not satisfied with; next step: replace the plant!!!
                                This is a small update: done a fantasyless postpro work with PS, and testing a whatsoever "definitive" layout...


                                test.jpg

                                WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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                                  huyvuvn
                                  last edited by

                                  let relax with your scence ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6584/ren1yd3.jpg

                                  http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1539/ren2ud2.jpg

                                  happiness on the way, not in the destination.

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                                    rcossoli
                                    last edited by

                                    another image made kerkythea, IES without lights and with some minor changes in materials and post production of the image.


                                    8.jpg

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                                      kwistenbiebel
                                      last edited by

                                      @pibuz said:

                                      I'm going on modifying the things i'm not satisfied with; next step: replace the plant!!!
                                      This is a small update: done a fantasyless postpro work with PS, and testing a whatsoever "definitive" layout...

                                      I like the second set up a lot.
                                      Almost there. Try to use the 'rule of thirds' to make the composition even more perfect.

                                      As a note, did you expect that much people giving it a go themselves? (...at the risk of a serious hijack though).
                                      It is a nice scene and we all can learn from it.
                                      Would be a cool that once and a while someone posts a working scene we all can try out.

                                      Thanks for sharing!

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                                        rcossoli
                                        last edited by

                                        exelente examples ๐Ÿ‘ unwittingly was raised a little comparison of different programs ๐Ÿ˜„

                                        THREEDIMENSIONSWEB dot COM

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                                          pibuz
                                          last edited by

                                          @kwistenbiebel said:

                                          Would be a cool that once and a while someone posts a working scene we all can try out.
                                          Thanks for sharing!

                                          I think this is the essence of learning, concerning GI, and I've always thought so!
                                          I tried to drop the idea somewhere(here on sketchy forum or on kerky's or on Vray's); result: a lot of agreements, but not a scene shared.. ๐Ÿ˜’

                                          I really think that sketchUp can help a lot, with its structure and way of managing files.
                                          And comparisons between render engines using the same base scene isn't hijacking at all, for me: so I invite you all guys to keep on rendering the poor scene I posted, and to share one among your best ones so that anybody can try!

                                          WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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                                          • FrederikF Offline
                                            Frederik
                                            last edited by

                                            A quick test I just did... ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                            In this scene I used the same materials as in the original, but I will try some others and also - inspired by Kwistenbiebel - some different camera posisions... ๐Ÿ˜„


                                            scene-studio-legno-twilight-mlt2.jpg

                                            Cheers
                                            Kim Frederik

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