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    sorgesu
    last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 02:27

    Hi thanks very much. but it is something that comes with MAC that I am looking for. I can't assume a person is going to have gimp so I can't use that as a template setting.
    Surely MAC has some kind of standard image editor that comes with it?

    Susan Sorger
    Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
    Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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      remus
      last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 07:53

      I think iphoto is the closest thing to an image editor that comes as standard for macs, although its very limited in what it can do (not that paint isnt.)

      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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        Gaieus
        last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 08:07

        What is Paint? 😒

        Joking aside, Susan, I would really assume that if one is already at a stage using an app like SU, he/she would already be familiar with some more advanced image editor than something like Paint in Windows so they would most probably have at least something like Gimp.

        Certainly this is not certain but I think there is nop problem in at least suggesting something more advanced.

        Gai...

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          remus
          last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 08:10

          microsoft paint, the staple crappy drawing program for windows. go start->accesories->paint to see for yourself. And then have a look at this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2sPl_Z7ZU

          http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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            Gaieus
            last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 08:12

            Remus, read between the lines (or the lines: "Joking aside...")
            😉

            Obviously Paint is the first application in Windows that you change to something else as a default image editor.

            Gai...

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              remus
              last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 08:16

              I must be going blind!

              http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                sorgesu
                last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 12:30

                Hi Gai, this is for a template that can be used uniiversally without the possiblity of an error. It is to demonstrate, in the middle of some texture tweaking exercise that SketchUp has this wonderful internal link. Only once I demo how it is working will I then show them where to set up the link.
                So I can't assume that they have Gimp. I don't. I have Photoshop. What if my MAC user has PHotoshop?

                We won't be doing anything fancy in the paint program anyway. It is mostly a demonstration of possibilities. See?

                Susan Sorger
                Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                  Gaieus
                  last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 12:40

                  No, I meant Gimp just a an example it can be PS or Corel PhotoPaint or anything.

                  But wait a minute; Preferences (unlike Model info settings or Styles) won't inherit in Templates (or again, am I missing something here?).

                  Gai...

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                    sorgesu
                    last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 13:33

                    no, you are right Gai. I mispoke> I needed that information to provide to people in the class manual and in the class, in case they do not have gimp or something of that sort on the laptop they bring.
                    In the classes I teach the computer labs all have Windows and those definitely will not have anything extra loaded so I will need to use paint. Die hard MAC users bring a laptop to work on. I can't tell you how often they bring someone else's machine or one that isn't really powerful enough becuase they don't usually use it for SketchUp. So I need to have that generic instruction.

                    So remus woult the path to iphoto be /Applicatons/iphoto.app ????

                    Susan Sorger
                    Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                    Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                      larinUP1
                      last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 17:05

                      Not sure iphoto will meet your needs. There is a Shareware program, GraphicConverter, that will work. However, I found it to have a steep learning curve. The program can be downloaded from Apple's website or lemkesoftDOT.com.

                      For info on Gimp> wwwDOT.gimp.org/downloads/

                      Remove DOT from l

                      Have you asked students using a Mac what graphics program they use?

                      Larry

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                        sorgesu
                        last edited by 3 Dec 2008, 17:25

                        Sorry,again, the question is not what they use. The question is what comes native with MAC. We won't really be doing anything much. Painting over something and that's it. It is just a demo. 2 seconds no more. So I just need the path. I'll ask some MAC friends somewhere.

                        Susan Sorger
                        Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                        Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                          Double Espresso
                          last edited by 4 Dec 2008, 00:52

                          @sorgesu said:

                          Sorry,again, the question is not what they use. The question is what comes native with MAC. We won't really be doing anything much. Painting over something and that's it. It is just a demo. 2 seconds no more. So I just need the path. I'll ask some MAC friends somewhere.

                          Are you talking about exporting a 2D into something like PhotoShop? Mac's don't come with a built in Image Editor and I can't imagine iPhoto being of any benefit. Graphic Converter is not a freebie.
                          DE

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                            sorgesu
                            last edited by 4 Dec 2008, 01:33

                            There is now a direct function from within SketchUp that allows you to select an applied texture on a face and that snippet gets transferred to the assigned image editor. ( its a right click for the textures context menu and it is a sub menu item under that. When you finish with it in your image editor it gets returned to the same spot in SketchUp and you can actually merge it with the rest of the texture.

                            So MAC people don't get the equivalent of "paint" you say? Really?

                            Susan Sorger
                            Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                            Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                              Kazai
                              last edited by 4 Dec 2008, 14:33

                              Hi,

                              Not sure about Iphoto will do the task. If you want to see if there's any Mac freewares that can do image editings, you can try looking up the Pure Mac web site ( http://www.pure-mac.com/ ) and go to Graphics under Multimedia. Mac version's GIMP is listed there. Also, you can try the free version of ArtRage at http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.html .

                              Hope this will help.

                              vince

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 4 Dec 2008, 16:30

                                Poor Susan, no one quite understands. To confirm.

                                Nope, iPhoto is not an image editor of the sort one would use.

                                Nope, Apple does not ship a default pixel editing tool with the OS.

                                (From what I hear, Paint is not that useful either? I know you just need it for an example.)

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                  sorgesu
                                  last edited by 4 Dec 2008, 16:35

                                  Thank you. That is a direct answer. Everyone, you were all so very kind to answer and I really do apperciate it that you all tried so hard to help me. But yes, you weren't quite understanding.
                                  No paint doesn't do anything much and we'll problably do no more than some silly scribble on the image.
                                  I suppose even iphoto would do even if it does nothing just to show that we can exit and re-enter.

                                  If you could just confirm the path????? Thanks much.

                                  Susan Sorger
                                  Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                                  Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                                    pbacot
                                    last edited by 4 Dec 2008, 16:42

                                    /Applications/iPhoto

                                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      otb designworks
                                      last edited by 5 Dec 2008, 07:53

                                      Susan, the path to iphoto is:

                                      Macintosh HD/Applications/iphoto

                                      As was mentioned before, though, iphoto is basically useless and you may be doing your students a disservice in steering them that direction. Perhaps better to suggest GraphicConverter, Photoshop, Gimp, etc.

                                      The path to those would be identical to the one I have above, though with some (photoshop, for sure) has an additional folder you need to bore through to get to the actual program.

                                      Macintosh HD/Applications/Adobe Photoshop CS3/Adobe Photoshop CS3 for example

                                      Cheers, Chuck

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                                        Chris Fullmer
                                        last edited by 5 Dec 2008, 08:49

                                        This really is a remarkably painful thread Susan..... Good luck,

                                        Chris

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                                          Edson
                                          last edited by 5 Dec 2008, 10:40

                                          iphoto is more of a picture organizer. macs do not ship with any app for photo editing.

                                          edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                                          http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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