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    • W Offline
      Wayne Ashley
      last edited by

      Gaieus,

      Thanks for the "heads up" there, my understanding is that the Cloud.rb works with 3D points defined in .dxf files. My converter also works with "traditional" topographic 2D surveys, where the points are referenced by text entries.

      Please feel free to correct me if I've misunderstood the functionality.

      Cheers,

      Wayne

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        Well, it creates the mesh from text files actually which I "collect" from a digital laser survey station (or a traditional teodolit/tahimeter) in the field.

        x,y,z co-ordinates are entered from a text file then the plugin automatically creates a cloud of guide points and also a triangulated mesh based on these points.

        I use it for archaeological site surveys both pre-excavation and during the excavation (defining every interesting/relevant archaeological startum).

        Gai...

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          Wayne Ashley
          last edited by

          Ah I see, yes a great free solution.

          Rather than receiving the raw data from the field, we are supplied with completed drawings from our surveyors; but yes, if you are gathering the data yourself or better yet, able to simply request the raw data from your provider; I too would suggest using Didier' Cloud.rb

          Wayne

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            JClements
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            Czaba:

            Would you feel like producing a tutorial (perhaps thru screen captures with text annotations) using a very small data set which would walk us through the basic steps of importing the data then using the script, etc.?

            As a neophyte to this process, I'd be interesting in understanding how it is done.

            Regards, John

            John | Illustrator | Beaverton, Oregon

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Yup, Wayne, for the seond look I also discovered the difference. Indeed there have been a couple of cases here with people who would have been happy with a solution like that.


              John: sure I could - I'll collect a nice set of example files (not today though 😄 )

              Gai...

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                I already have "text2d3d.lsp" that does something of this sort... reading 2d levels text and makes a 3d points cloud from it in AutoCAD... I wrote it a year or so ago, initially specifically for someone, so I won't publish it as a 'spoiler'... but you can always pm me if needs be...

                .

                TIG

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                  Wayne Ashley
                  last edited by

                  Tig that's great, you should publish it, I don't see these free options as spoilers.

                  I assume your script requires access to AutoCAD to work (please correct me if I'm wrong). My software runs online (OS independent) and as such doesn't require AutoCAD to perform the conversions. Personally, I work using Vectorworks (MAC), but the files I receive from our surveyors are .dxf.

                  Cheers,

                  Wayne

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                    sintra
                    last edited by

                    Hi,

                    This looks great to me Wayne i sent you an e-mail asking if i can have a go with it. How much will the software be to buy ?

                    Cheers

                    Darren

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                      linea
                      last edited by

                      Wayne,

                      Sounds good, will it work on 2d ordnance survey map dxfs as they often have the height data marked on?

                      Jon

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                        Wayne Ashley
                        last edited by

                        Jon,

                        It should work fine with the OS data, do you have an example to give it a spin with?

                        If not, I can send you a couple of different file types over and you can try it for yourself.

                        Just drop me a line direct to mr_ashley@little-something.com and I'll give you a login.

                        Cheers,

                        Wayne Ashley

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                          Wayne Ashley
                          last edited by

                          Well yes, there's definitely scope for developers to play around with here. In the new year I'm going to tackle getting external building data into the model, alongside some of the more typical features trees/lighting etc.

                          But such ideas throw up fresh problems; at the moment it does a dull job, in a fast and uncomplicated manner.

                          ...but you know, I'm just waffling now!

                          Back on topic:
                          Besides little-something.com, cloud.rb and Tig's LISP script, how have other people been getting their topo and raw data into Sketchup?

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                          • Chris FullmerC Offline
                            Chris Fullmer
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                            I've been using free DEM's for existing general terrain when I need it. Or else importing Google Earth terrain if I don't need it to be very detailed. I also will make topos by hand quickly sometimes if needed. So far I've never been given cloud data type stuff. I think I don't work in an environment that I need to be dealing with that stuff.

                            Chris

                            Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                            All my Plugins I've written

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                              Wayne Ashley
                              last edited by

                              Thanks to all those currently giving the software a spin. For a small few of you, there appears to be a bug in the Topo conversion. I'm working on a fix and testing over the weekend - so if anyone else would like to trial the software, I suggest holding off until Monday/Tuesday.

                              As for the bug...
                              as Donald Rumsfeld once said

                              "...there are things we know we know. We also know there are known
                              unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we know we
                              don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't
                              know we don't know." - At the moment it is a known unknown, but I'll keep you informed.

                              Or better yet, to quote from "Airplane"

                              "...looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!" (it was something like that anyway)

                              Wayne Ashley
                              mr_ashley@little-something.com

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                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @wayne ashley said:

                                Tig that's great, you should publish it, I don't see these free options as spoilers.
                                I assume your script requires access to AutoCAD to work (please correct me if I'm wrong). My software runs online (OS independent) and as such doesn't require AutoCAD to perform the conversions. Personally, I work using Vectorworks (MAC), but the files I receive from our surveyors are .dxf.
                                Cheers,
                                Wayne

                                I still won't make it 'public'... but if anyone wants a 'free' lisp-routine to make 3d points simply from 2d [m]text within AutoCAD [or something else using lisp], then they can PM me and 'discuss' it...

                                .

                                TIG

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                                  Wayne Ashley
                                  last edited by

                                  Thanks for your patience, subscriptions will be back open this evening.

                                  Cheers,
                                  Wayne Ashley
                                  mr_ashley@little-something.com

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