SketchUp game exporter (Source)
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This is great news!! I'm a big fan of Half Life and TF2, the Source engine is great, and since i saw this post on Digital Urban (http://digitalurban.blogspot.com/2006/08/frank-lloyd-wright-architectual.html) i've been dreaming on placing sketchup models on Source!
This is really good for Architects also! we can make a model of a building and then walk in it with the customer making it much easier to explain the project and propose changes.Hey Gaieus what do you think about exporting my Rome model to the Source engine?
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I'd love to see that, Pedro!
(Also thinking about my city)
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First off, long time forum lurker...but long time sketchup user.
I am very interested in getting a SketchUp to SandBox2 (Crysis) converter working.
If anyone is interested you can convert easy enough from SketchUp in to SandBox2 using XSI ModTool as a in-between.
SandBox2 is free with the Crysis demo (Although you get more with the real-game)
SketchUp free version can be used with the XSI ModTool using Google Earth 4 KMZ files.
And XSI ModTool is free.I have used SketchUp a few times to bring in basic custom objects into the popular map I made in Crysis.
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Flashlight:
HDTV:
http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=19058I have a (Very) basic how-to here:
http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?postid=178946#post178946 -
I am aware of the XSI mod tool, but a 'straight-from-Su-to-sandbox' would be sooooo much easier
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For architectural visualisation (photoreal real time walkthroughs!) the newer Crytek Far cry 2 engine will be even better I think.So yeah, lets vote for game exporters
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The XSI mod-tool is about as easy as it gets. All I had to do to get my models in was to tweak the textures names in the XSI tool and then pass it on to SandBox2. I would do more but the plug-in isn't working on my newest PC.
Is should be pretty straight forward for someone to write a model converter as the full SDK for SandBox2 is out. I just have no skills in programming that type of stuff.
FarCry2 does look to have a great engine from the videos, however just FYI the engine is not developed by Crytek, only the license to the story was bought from them.
From a quote on the FarCry2 editor:
@unknownuser said:
We can't ship our real production editor - it's just impossibly complicated - so the version we've built for the public is a very quick and super user-friendly level editor that allows people to build maps for multiplayer very, very quickly in a few hours," said Hocking. "It uses all in-game assets so it's as beautiful as the game, unless you make a giant pillar of rock 500 metres high and don't texture it or something - then it's ugly - but that's up to you.
Where as with CryEngine2 they have a full SDK, and nearly every tool used to actually make Crysis was given out to the public.
Now I know we are not talking about making games here but realistic real world scale visualizations, but I have found nothing that is as easy and powerful as SandBox2.
I have my entire home modeled in SketchUp, I am thinking about making a demonstration map inside SandBox2 using my house as a model in the editor. Also my work is interested in using the game engine to setup virtual walkthroughs that allows a customer to see how our products work inside their home.
I have used SandBox2 combined with Google Earth to make two maps based on real-world terrain.
My first map, called Castaway has the same outline and basic terrain as the island where the movie Castaway was filmed. The island is 1:1 scale with the real-world island, and I used images from Google Earth as reference to paint the terrain.On the map I am working on now I am actually using eight square km of real-world terrain. Specifically Zion's National park. The terrain is perfect 1:1 scale in elevation using USGS data. The textures is also nearly perfect using 1 meter resolution USGS satellite photos.
Here is the terrain in Google Earth:
Here is the terrain in SandBox2 after only a few hours work:
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If you do your house for Crysis, I'd like to see it.
Nice to see Zion's Park. My parents live about an hour in Ivins and I proposed to my wife there (though that was long before my parents lived anywhere near it).
I'd like to see anything for Crysis that you have.
Chris
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@zapwizard said:
First off, long time forum lurker...but long time sketchup user.
I am very interested in getting a SketchUp to SandBox2 (Crysis) converter working.
If anyone is interested you can convert easy enough from SketchUp in to SandBox2 using XSI ModTool as a in-between.
SandBox2 is free with the Crysis demo (Although you get more with the real-game)
SketchUp free version can be used with the XSI ModTool using Google Earth 4 KMZ files.
And XSI ModTool is free.I have used SketchUp a few times to bring in basic custom objects into the popular map I made in Crysis.
Text:
Flashlight:
HDTV:
http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=19058I have a (Very) basic how-to here:
http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?postid=178946#post178946Wow mate that is some great stuff!!!
I have to ask is the first island image from a game engine or rendered from elsewhere! All this new game engine speak is completely new to me and I'm not really absorbing it at all. Though I'm listening in to see if amongst my confusion get some hold on it!
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Here's the basics of it (as I understand it). I have not been directly involved in creating my own content for games for a few years. Reading back through this, I totally dumbed it down. I'm not trying to be condescending, I was just trying to simplify and give a little background and a fuller explanation. Please don't be offended if you already 99% of this and I'm just repeating known information - this really was written for anyone interested. Hope its helpful as a brief background to this thread.
So Wolfenstein was one of the first 3d first person shoot em up games. It came out in 1991. It had a map editor in which you could take walls and boxes and weapons and stuff from the game and lay them out in your own configuration to make your own level. Back then, you pretty much just took the 3d parts and pieces that the game developers gave you and you arranged them how you wanted.
Today, most 3d games (all?) still have a map editor so you can take the stuff they already made and re-organzie it into a map of your own design. But even cooler are the games that really are letting people add their own content and then place that in to maps of their own making. So You can take the game Crysis for example (which I own but have not played much) and use its content, which is lots of warfare stuff in the jungles I think. But if you want to make a game that is more about Star Trek, you could go model all the star trek spaceships, put materials on them and import them in to the gamed editor. Place them whereever you want on your map, aply the game's physics to them (engines, weight, power, guns, armor, etc), and then you would have an entirely new game about star trek that you would play inside a game that is normally about jungles and combat. This is called modding. Taking a game, and adding enough of your won content and changing the gameplay enough that it essentially becomes its own, new game. There is already a big user base in this, lots of people mod. Most mods suck.
But the ability to import content into a game is so cool because games focus on incredibly fast, high quality real time rendering with dynamic lights and shadows, physics, you can have vehicles. So if you build a downtown prototype in SU, you could import that to a game editor, and then load it into the game and play it online, live, with friends. If you throw some cars in to your city map, you could all hop in cars and drive around and see your city by walking or by driving, or by flying over if you have planes, etc.
So all this talk about FarCry, FarCry 2, Crysis, Sandbox, Source, etc is all just different games or their editors. Source is the name of the game engine (physics + 3d geometry handler + renderer), and the game editor for the Source Engine is Hammer (I think?).
This thread was started about the plugin which works with the Source engine. So all you need to do is go buy a game that is powered by Source - Half Life 2, Portal, Team Fortress 2, and you get the game editor Hammer included. Then install the SU plugin and you would be able to make a model of something, like a building in SU, and take it in to the game through the Hammer map editor.
Anyhow, I'm sure I overlooked important things, included useless information, and got most of my facts and names wrong. But hey, it wouldn't be a "Chris Fullmer" post any other way!
Chris
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really a nice summary of why game engines and their editors are so great for use as an achitectural visualisation tool. thank you very much, Chris.
@zapwizard
very impressive model. you got the terrain from google earth, right? did you save it as SketchUp model and then convert it with XSI for import into Sandbox2? is it really as simple as that?where did you get the superb satelite images from?
damn, I am afraid I have to download the Crysis demo tonight!
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Richard, that screenshot is in-game. Crysis handles large areas, real-world scale and lighting very well that is why it is so attractive for visualization. The vegetation handling is also second to none. (So far)
Also the editor for SandBox2 is done in-game, meaning fully rendered, and it takes only a keypress to move into the map in a interactive form. Many other editors are just that: separate editors that allows you to make a map, compile it, and then launch it separately in the game.
I have only dabbled a little bit in the Source editor. It is easy to use also but not quite as powerful if you want something that is a perfect real-world match, and it also doesn't do massively large maps. In 64-bit mode SandBox2 map size is only limited by your CPU horsepower and memory.
@plot-paris, See below on the terrain, none of the actual in-game models other then the HDTV and flashlight posted above are imported SketchUp. However I used SketchUp and Google Earth in making my map. And I plan on using SketchUp to make in-game models once I get a good importer flow working.
For my first map (Castaway) I extracted satellite photos in 1:1 scale from google earth.
I have a series of video tutorials on how to do this here:
http://www.veoh.com/channels/ZapWizard
But the heightmap (the elevation of the terrain) was all done by hand, and all the terrain was re-painted in-game using the satellite photos as reference.
Here is my flickr photos on that project:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapwizard/sets/72157603074021169/For my second map (Zion) it was a bit easier. Since the area is located in the US and is a national park there is hundreds of pages of data on the USGS website. Specifically I used a 1 meter resolution satellite photo (USGS) of the area which was better quality then Google earth had on the area.
Then I downloaded a 2-meter resolution height map from the USGS website.
Just with those two components I was able to get the images above.
The how-to on importing real-world height maps is here:
http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=17539Once you add water, roads, and vegetation the results are very close to photo-real:
Compare to: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/3932425
My flickr set for this project is here:
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Sigh...something else I have to learn how to use now.
Amazing, zap!
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@lewiswadsworth said:
Sigh...something else I have to learn how to use now.
Amazing, zap!
My thoughts exactly Lewis. I'm really hoping a proper SU->SB exporter could be devised though.
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zapwizard, thank you very much for your posts - they contain some truely exciting information. you made me really curious (my laptop at home is downloading the crysis demo as we speak
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This is very interesting and has great possibilities for real-time
presentation.I have located this tut for CryEngine2 Sandbox2 Basic Tutorial as
I did not a clue about how to approach these apps .... Errrrr, not
that I will be much wiser after reading the tut .... but I live in
hopehttp://konakona.nbtxathcx.net/sb2/
Mike
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Links to tutorials on SandBox2:
http://doc.crymod.com -Official manual
http://wiki.crymod.com -Wiki
http://www.crymod.com/tutorials.php -User made tutorials (all of my tutorials are in here)There are also lots of other third-party sites like the one mike posted.
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My former colleague has experimented with using the Crisis Sandbox and importing skp. He was inspired by the digital urban blog demonstration too. I don't know how much time he spent on it but he was underwhelmed with the results. I can't remember many details but I think there are certain on-screen windows and buttons (part of the game) that he could not figure out how to hide.
If you search on Digtal urban for Oblivion (another game) the potential for utilising that looks better.
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Wow I downloaded the Cry2 trailer!!! Man if that is the realtime render environment that can be expected viewing a SU scene who needs a renderer!
So has anyone been playing with walk throughs with the cry sandbox editor. BTW can the camera motion be set and how does one produce an animation? Via screen capture?
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I bought Crysis 4 months ago with the purpose to use the sandbox editor and try some Archviz with it. (the XSI mod tool as in between app).
To be honest, the workflow was way too tedious and I soon gave it up.
It would have been a different story if one could export straight from SU to the sandbox editor with all mats in place.Oh, and another thing: you can't use the output you get from Crytek engine commercially without license, meaning you need to keep your archviz in house or just provide it as free documentation to a client.
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Wow thats a disappointment! really!
I had high hopes that this would be a fast animation opportunity! Would be interesting though to read the license. It could be more in reference to charging for play??
Yes the direct export from SU would be welcomed! Though unless you can use it for commercial purposes then little to be gained!!!
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Update for you guys: There is now a much easier and faster way to import SketchUp models into SandBox2 (Crysis engine)
The program is a basically a Calloda to CryEngine2 converter.
See my thread here:
http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?postid=394096#post394096Source model:
http://tinyurl.com/5gjd42
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