Where is SU 7 ?
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If Google was to implement a renderer it would not be for rendering per-se but more as a solution to the shadow bug in animation IMO, as raytracing would eliminate the shadow issue.
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So, the only way they can solve the shadow bug is by requiring a raytraced export? That is a poor solution at best. So, for a 9000 frame animation at 2560 x 1440 that takes approx 17 seconds a frame, now, for me to export, I would think that a raytraced export would take so long as to no longer be a viable option.
-sigh-
I guess that answers my shadow bug question.
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Like I said "IF" I am sure that it would be streamlined to an end where it could be a viable solution at least at You Tube resolutions.
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@kwistenbiebel said:
Nice analysis kannonbal,
I share these thought and make them apply on architectural work as well.thank you, sir.
It would be easier if I didn't care, but, jeez, this is Sketchup for crying out loud. It completely kicks the poo out of the other softwares out there, even with a large amount of modeling contortions and tweaks.
But, it really HAS to keep up with modern hardware. I feel silly even thinking that I need to say that out loud. It's not like the old software/hardware hopscotch is a new development.
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@solo said:
Like I said "IF" I am sure that it would be streamlined to an end where it could be a viable solution at least at You Tube resolutions.
Again this is only a thought, Google are very tight lipped.I hear your if, no doubt.
Well, youtube resolutions are almost 720p HD.
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Ray tracing isnt the only solution. there was a fix at one pint, although another company had a patent on it and so it was removed from SU. Perhaps there is another solution similar to this that isnt patented.
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Yes there was, version 4 had it but due to the legal issues that arose it was not included in 5, 6 and i doubt 7, so a new solution needs to be addressed.
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Nice analysis kannonbal,
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The guy who owns the 'patent' ('rights','copyright', or whatever the right word) must be a complete *sshole, as he clearly is charging way too much money, even for google it seems, for his shadow calculation thing.
...the story of the mouse slaying the elephant.
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It's known as Carmack's Reverse, but Creative Labs are the real villains. As this article states they are claiming patent on an algorithm that isn't even the same...just similar...to the one that John Carmack developed. That's like laying claim to a quadratic equation.
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Sorry to pull this thread further in to the depths of off topicness, but what method does SU use for rendering shadows? is it just a simple vector equation or are there more complex forces at work?
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@remus said:
Sorry to pull this thread further in to the depths of off topicness, but what method does SU use for rendering shadows? is it just a simple vector equation or are there more complex forces at work?
I remember reading in the old @Last forum that the "more complex forces at work" is the answer nearest to the truth, and that shadows are not directly supported by OpenGL, but that some clever engineering has been used to make it generate them. I might remember wrong, though.
Anssi
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@plot-paris said:
therefore my biggest wish is, that Google announces a Ruby contest(lets say four times a year) where the best new scripts (or script updates) are chosen and their writers get a nice tropy money (for the hundrets of red bull cans they needed
)That is a brilliant idea!
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Side note to Dazza: "All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege." Brilliant!
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Layout needs to be for 2D drafting
Sketchup needs to support high poly models
that would make me happy.
also with 3D AND 2D component libraries, full of the stuff you need - for architects, designers, etc
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When 7 is coming anyway?
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How is it to live underground?
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V7 will be released on September 4th at 11.45 a.m. Mountain Time.
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Alan, that was really malicious! my heart skipped a beat, when I saw the red writing!
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