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  • K Offline
    kwistenbiebel
    last edited by 17 May 2008, 00:45

    You're a great source of underground info, Lewis.
    Very interesting, very interesting πŸ’­

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      boofredlay
      last edited by 17 May 2008, 00:46

      @lewiswadsworth said:

      On a completely different note: I mentioned this in the Ruby forum, but to repeat it here: Elsewhen at the convention, while discussing running SU on Linux, I was asked by a certainly Googler if I had tried the new SU7 beta in Linux under WINE yet. When I did a double-take, he said, "Oh, wait, we haven't let that one out yet, have we?"

      🀣

      http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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        lewiswadsworth
        last edited by 17 May 2008, 00:49

        There was a big print of that bathroom rendering of yours (the one with the square sinks and water coming out of the faucet), KB, at the Podium booth. I hadn't realized you did that with Podium.

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          lewiswadsworth
          last edited by 17 May 2008, 00:53

          Actually, to get the 3D printing goodness you have to shell out for the full FormZ package, $3750 a seat, as I understood them...what a deal for all that early nineties "MAC system 7 interface" glory! The SketchUp clone is $500.

          I pulled one of the SU stl Ruby scripts off here:

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          (www.ohyeahcad.com)

          (Edit: I think it is the same script here. Didier would know:

          http://www.crai.archi.fr/rubylibrarydepot/ruby/ )

          It doesn't always work, but then Rhino's will. Actually, much of the trick to getting a good STL is disciplined modeling...you have to make sure you don't leave naked edges in your model. SU doesn't have a tool for finding them (if you've been careless) that I know of, but Rhino does.

          Even Blender writes STL files. I used it the other day to extract a Blender mesh for reworking in Rhino.

          STL export is not a big deal, certainly not worth three grand. A basic 3D printer from Zcorp is only ten grand, and it comes with shelling software. I'll tweak scripts and save my money for the hardware.

          --

          On a completely different note: I mentioned this in the Ruby forum, but to repeat it here: Elsewhen at the convention, while discussing running SU on Linux, I was asked by a certain Googler if I had tried the new SU7 beta in Linux under WINE yet. When I did a double-take, he said, "Oh, wait, we haven't let that one out yet, have we?"

          col sporcar si trova

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            tomsdesk
            last edited by 17 May 2008, 03:27

            @lewiswadsworth said:

            ...asked by a certain Googler if I had tried the new SU7 beta in Linux under WINE yet. When I did a double-take, he said, "Oh, wait, we haven't let that one out yet, have we?"

            Bah! Humbug!

            http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
            2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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              mpowell1234567890
              last edited by 17 May 2008, 04:41

              Cool, I'm ready for Sketchup 7. πŸ‘ β˜€

              Wishlist:

              1. Import / Export gif animated images for use in textures on a model.
              2. The clipping / slicing bug to be fixed.
              3. More Speed rendering, especially when the shadows are turned on, in hidden geometry mode and in textures.
              4. Visual Basic Script functionality along with ruby.
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                lewiswadsworth
                last edited by 17 May 2008, 04:56

                I did talk about scripting languages with John Bacus. I would have preferred Python to Ruby, personally. Ruby always feels oddly like a debased mark-up language to me, on a grammatical level.

                That ain't going to change, it seems, though. They are very happy with the way the Ruby scripting is working out.

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                  tbd
                  last edited by 17 May 2008, 09:40

                  lewiswadsworth: any pics from AIA ? want to see how the big Podium renders came out πŸ˜‰

                  SketchUp Ruby Consultant | Podium 1.x developer
                  http://plugins.ro

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                    kwistenbiebel
                    last edited by 17 May 2008, 10:55

                    @unknownuser said:

                    lewiswadsworth: any pics from AIA ? want to see how the big Podium renders came out πŸ˜‰

                    Me too πŸ˜„

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                      mpowell1234567890
                      last edited by 17 May 2008, 17:29

                      Cool, I'm looking forward in using the new Sketchup 7. πŸ˜„ I may design a 2000 acre maze with it soon.

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                        lewiswadsworth
                        last edited by 17 May 2008, 20:07

                        Spent the morning of the last day at the AIA meeting in the exhibit hall...sorry I didn't check SCF earlier, or I would have taken a photo of the Podium booth. Your rendering looked pretty good blown up, KB. They said they had some issues with their printer, and couldn't get it as large as they would like.

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                          lewiswadsworth
                          last edited by 17 May 2008, 20:15

                          And Bryce, in the distance, added, "Yeah, and it's biodegradeable."

                          brycex2.JPG

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                            Ross Macintosh
                            last edited by 17 May 2008, 20:40

                            Thanks for the news Lewis.

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                              lewiswadsworth
                              last edited by 17 May 2008, 20:46

                              I also spoke with Aidan for a while. He said he is enjoying the conspiracy theories expressed here.

                              Yes there is a SketchUp 7.0--no they haven't let it out even to beta testers yet--no they don't know when because they're still working on it but they think we will like it--yes they made some changes--no they won't say what but they do pay attention to us.

                              Almost forgot: yeah, there will be some big improvements (unspecified) to Layout as well.

                              evangelist.JPG

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                                lewiswadsworth
                                last edited by 17 May 2008, 21:03

                                Other gossip I almost forgot to mention:

                                You may or may not remember that I teach graduate courses in 3D modeling, design, and illustration at an architecture school. I mentioned to John and Tom that my students were really enthused over Dale's subdivide and smooth tool.

                                They both asked, "Are tools like that really that useful to architects? Are you really that interested in curvy things?" I replied that FOG and Zaha both taught at the school where I received my degree, so any opinion I expressed was probably a little non-typical. But my students now that I am a teacher myself have constantly asked me for such capabilities, and always disparaged the rigmarole I gave them (pre-S&S)on extruding beziers and messing with the Sandbox tools. And even post-school for me, working in various firms that were not particularly cutting-edge, there had been times when I had to produce more organic forms than SketchUp could easily supply.

                                They were really interested in my answer. Conspiracy theory #1, anyone?

                                Also, John asked me if I or my students had any use for the Styles features. In all honesty, no, I told him, although I did have a few projects before Styles came out where I created something like Styles using the old edge display panel and judicious use of Photoshop. I still use a great many other NPR techniques for formal presentation and illustration work, just not edge Styles. However, my students apparently use Styles constantly, mainly to disguise the fact that they are using computers when they present work to the typical Luddite dinosaurs who have appointed themselves as design critics.

                                John was really, really interested in that answer. Conspiracy theory #2.

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                                  boofredlay
                                  last edited by 17 May 2008, 21:23

                                  Thanks again for the info Lewis.

                                  http://www.coroflot.com/boofredlay

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                                    lewiswadsworth
                                    last edited by 17 May 2008, 21:32

                                    So it seems like the Googlers are following this thread...when I said hello to John Bacus yesterday, he replied, "Oh hi Lewis...sorry you all hate us!"

                                    --

                                    Anyway, I was joking with him today about the "SketchUp 7 on Linux" gaffe of the day before, which I described above. I asked him if he could tell me anything about 7 that I could post at SCF.

                                    "Tell them it has...lasers."

                                    lazers.JPG

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                                      solo
                                      last edited by 18 May 2008, 01:41

                                      Just goes to show how detached they are. ... sad really.

                                      http://www.solos-art.com

                                      If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        mpowell1234567890
                                        last edited by 18 May 2008, 07:47

                                        @lewiswadsworth said:

                                        I also spoke with Aidan for a while. He said he is enjoying the conspiracy theories expressed here.

                                        Yes there is a SketchUp 7.0--no they haven't let it out even to beta testers yet--no they don't know when because they're still working on it but they think we will like it--yes they made some changes--no they won't say what but they do pay attention to us.

                                        Almost forgot: yeah, there will be some big improvements (unspecified) to Layout as well.

                                        [attachment=0:pmx03mj0]<!-- ia0 -->evangelist.JPG<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:pmx03mj0]

                                        Cool, hopefully it come soon. I'm planning on creating a 2000 acre maze with Sketchup 7..

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                                          solo
                                          last edited by 18 May 2008, 12:18

                                          If John and Tom are both unconvinced that SU needs "curvy things" I guess organic tools are off the list.
                                          Thanks to our most excellent coders we do not have to move to the beat of Googles drum.

                                          I am very disappointed by what I have heard so far, my expectation level has shrunk to a few Layout and GE functionalities only.

                                          There was a thread once where it was mentioned that the 'elite' in the arch-vis industry do not take SU serious .... neither does Google it seems.

                                          http://www.solos-art.com

                                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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