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SkIndigo 1.0.9 Officially Released

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  • J Offline
    johnsenior1973
    last edited by 10 May 2008, 09:11

    I've never been that interested in rendering, but I tried Indigo and have been having problems.

    I downloaded Indigo and Skindigo and tried rendering a simple model (187kb and one texture). My CPU started racing at 100% for around 15 minutes until I close down Indigo. I try again with the settings on an even lower resolution and simple cube model with no textures and pretty much the same thing happened. I've had a quick look at the Indigo forums and seen that the program does go on until you stop it. I've seen the images produced and I'm not exactly impressed, I'd probably have been better off exporting a 2D graphic straight from Sketchup.

    My computer has an Intel Pentium 4 3.07ghz with 384mb of RAM.

    I tried to use your tutorial, but I keep getting Windows - No Disk message (Exception Processing Message c0000012 Parameters 75b......).

    Is the program supposed to use up so much processing power? If it's normal for the program to use the CPU that much, does it lesson the life of the computer to be stressed so much?

    Any help? I'm kind of thinking that rendering's either not for me, my PC, or both.

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      remus
      last edited by 10 May 2008, 09:38

      John, indigo is meant to use that much processing power. Basically what its doignwhen its rendering is calculating the paths of millions of light rays as they bounce around the model, and as you can imagine this takes a lot of computing power to work out where they are all going.

      As you mentioned, for very simple things you probably better of just exporting from SU, but if you want realistic images rendering is a must.

      And finally, having your CPU running at full whack will not damage it, its meant to be used like this.

      happy rendering

      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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        kwistenbiebel
        last edited by 10 May 2008, 10:56

        @Whaat,
        Thank you very much for updating Skindigo. Looks like very cool new features.
        IES support is a thing I will definitely check out as it could possibly enhance the realism when using emitters .
        Great coding and the GUI is great.
        👍

        @John,
        Sorry to hear it doesn't work that well for you.
        I am pretty sure, your processing power is the bottleneck here.
        About two years ago I changed to multicore PC's (starting with a Core2duo) and since then, the SkIndigo exporter was running really much much smoother.

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        • I Offline
          ilay7k
          last edited by 10 May 2008, 13:11

          Dale, thank you! 😍
          sketchup+sk[indigo] is awesome tools before 3dmonsters, especially tilling of seamless textures-mats

          if i missed something, does indigo or skindigo support 2-sided mats?
          Example with ies-light(left luminous point - ies light mat, putting at inverted face)...and scene+ies


          8-12 min


          scene+ies

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          • I Offline
            ilay7k
            last edited by 10 May 2008, 16:51

            i got nice results of ies-light with BdirMLT
            All other(non-Bdir) types don't work with "black environment"...i can't to control sun-sky for getting of night scene 😐

            simple tests attached


            ~18 min


            ~17 min

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              kwistenbiebel
              last edited by 10 May 2008, 17:29

              Ilay,

              I am glad you mentioned it.
              Rendering with a background color is a thing that bugs me in Indigo.
              It doesn't work when using camera settings and it is really difficult to get control over the intensity (= not possible).

              If OnoSendai (developer of Indigo engine) could make this easier, along with options to render HDRI simultaneously with sky + sun , and the ability to render sky without direct sun, Indigo would be better than the commercial unbiased engines.
              Basically, a multilight option would also be needed.

              Hopefully this will be added in future Indigo releases...

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                ilay7k
                last edited by 10 May 2008, 17:50

                at render solution of cinema4d - cineview (http://www.biomekk.com/index.php?page=1&cat=107&itm=22)...
                you have camera's preview-window(with fast-draft render settings) and controls of camera, it's like skindigo mat-preview now...will be nice to have it in skindigo

                @unknownuser said:

                Rendering with a background color is a thing that bugs me in Indigo.
                It doesn't work when using camera settings and it is really difficult to get control over the intensity (= not possible).

                it's like in vray, brute-force(QMC GI) and some settings work with phys.sky and phys.camera(so for outdoor scenes and sometimes indoor). LC(LightCache) - not

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                  pibuz
                  last edited by 11 May 2008, 09:10

                  ... 😳 ...guys, i am so sorry coming out with a silly question like this, but i don't understand very well what an IES light is, and how it is handled by skIndigo...Someone with a little spare time could be so kind to explain me? Sorry for my question....

                  WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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                    ilay7k
                    last edited by 11 May 2008, 13:06

                    @pibuz said:

                    ... 😳 ...guys, i am so sorry coming out with a silly question like this, but i don't understand very well what an IES light is, and how it is handled by skIndigo...Someone with a little spare time could be so kind to explain me? Sorry for my question....

                    you can get more info from http://www.iesna.org and some app like http://www.3dop.com

                    @unknownuser said:

                    The IES file is a text file used to describe the light output properties of a light fixture.

                    and one of recent standards for archi-viz(more realistic light behavior for sofits, spots and ect) ...

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                    • R Offline
                      remus
                      last edited by 11 May 2008, 20:44

                      Pibuz, theres also quite a lto of useful info here.

                      http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                      • K Offline
                        kwistenbiebel
                        last edited by 11 May 2008, 22:17

                        Whaat,

                        I think you forgot to mention the coolest Skindigo features of all:
                        animation.

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                          pibuz
                          last edited by 12 May 2008, 07:58

                          Thank you Remus and Ylay7k! I did a search by myself too, and:GOD! This IES stuff is turning out really amazing!! I'm a big fan of it already! Thank you guys, i'm really learning a lot here!

                          WEB (ita) - https://filipposcarso.wixsite.com/ordinentropico

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                            kwistenbiebel
                            last edited by 12 May 2008, 10:21

                            I never really found a .ies file that could serve for a light emitting window surface.(daylight wash)
                            Anyone has a clue where to find it?

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                              ilay7k
                              last edited by 12 May 2008, 13:21

                              I don't...
                              Need to test this distribution of light(blackbodies), with exit portals...
                              this is interesting...and fog too...for volume light

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                                jomaef
                                last edited by 22 Jun 2008, 15:14

                                I'm having problems with skindigo!
                                Everytime i run sketchup, a window shows up asking for me to locate a .exe file. When i locate the indigo.exe on my indigo directory, an error message pops up:
                                "Error Loading File SkIndigo_1_0_9.rb
                                cannot convert nil into String"
                                I followed the installation instuctions correctly, and i downloaded skindigo v.1_0_9 and indigo_v0.9.10. What's going on? Any help?
                                The plugins menu in sketchup doesn't even show up...

                                PS: My sketchup version is google sketchup and it's not pro...and i use windows vista.

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                                  Latetzki
                                  last edited by 22 Jun 2008, 17:32

                                  @jomaef said:

                                  I'm having problems with skindigo!
                                  Everytime i run sketchup, a window shows up asking for me to locate a .exe file. When i locate the indigo.exe on my indigo directory, an error message pops up:
                                  "Error Loading File SkIndigo_1_0_9.rb
                                  cannot convert nil into String"
                                  I followed the installation instuctions correctly, and i downloaded skindigo v.1_0_9 and indigo_v0.9.10. What's going on? Any help?
                                  The plugins menu in sketchup doesn't even show up...

                                  PS: My sketchup version is google sketchup and it's not pro...and i use windows vista.

                                  EDIT: Never mind, works now! Just extract stable version and locate .exe in Sketchup.

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                                    jomaef
                                    last edited by 23 Jun 2008, 01:38

                                    I'm sorry, i don't get it! >.<
                                    I downloaded stable versions from the indigo website (three different versions actually) and none of them worked, all the same problem! Am I choosing the correct .exe file? Maybe i'm extracting the indigo .zip file to a "wrong" palce, (i placed it in "my documents" folder) C:\Users\me\Documents\indigo_v0.9.10
                                    I also noticed what is written on the log.txt file in the indigo directory:
                                    "Indigo Renderer v0.9.10 (0.9 Stable), Windows 32-bit Release build.
                                    SSE present.
                                    SSE2 present.
                                    SSE3 present.
                                    No scene file path specified.
                                    Fatal Error: No scene file path specified."
                                    Is that normal? Please, i don't know what to do anymore!!!

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                                      يوشي
                                      last edited by 23 Jun 2008, 01:59

                                      اقول يالكلااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااابcstati
                                      الله يخسف بكم

                                      والله ماتدورن وين ربي حاطكم فيه :ec:

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                                      • R Offline
                                        remus
                                        last edited by 23 Jun 2008, 06:03

                                        Jomaef, i think the latest version of indigo is 1.0.9, so youll want to go and get that first. Make sure you get the 32 bit version for windows.

                                        Next youll need the corresponding version of skindigo which you install as a plugin to SU.

                                        See how that goes and tell us if you still have problems.

                                        http://remusrendering.wordpress.com/

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                                          jomaef
                                          last edited by 24 Jun 2008, 15:45

                                          Now it worked! I downloaded three different versions of indigo and none of them were the correct one! Now, with the fourth try it works nicely!
                                          Yeah...i'm stupid!><
                                          Thank you so much for the help!

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