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    • RE: Legalities of 3D warehouse models - commercial purposes

      @unknownuser said:

      Well, this is basically a CG site so we may not be very well equipped with intellectual property lawyers here.

      Good point, I guess it was my selfish attempt at getting quality responses ๐Ÿ˜ณ Thank you for the feedback, some useful points for sure.

      Does it matter if I alter every model piece from its current shape / color? At what point is something a derived work vs. one's own creation? I guess I'm opening a can of worms and as mentioned, there are gray areas ... that are interpreted by lawyers if it was to ever go to court.

      posted in Newbie Forum
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    • RE: Proper tool for the job?

      Hi Gaieus,

      90% of the site will be buildings from inside, and 10% outside views. In both cases, I need to user to be able to zoom in on certain components but I don't want them to have free reign to walk around or zoom randomly to any location.

      On a website, can I replicate the action that occurs when clicking on a saved scene tab in SketchUp? That is a simpler way of explaining what I need.

      Thanks

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    • Legalities of 3D warehouse models - commercial purposes

      Hi there,

      Using models from the 3D warehouse for commercial purposes... legal?

      I'm not trying to sell the actual models, they are just part of a larger site that is commercial. I'm thinking of having the models hyperlink to a page where you can buy a similar real-life item.

      The most intelligent sounding post relating to this that I've found on the net so far:
      *The license that content creators must grant under the TOS is straightforward. Both Google and end users have a non-exclusive, perpetual, worldwide license to use any content uploaded under the terms of the TOS. If you upload content, in other words, you are granting a perpetual, royalty-free, worldwide non-exclusive license to both Google and those who use the Google 3D warehouse. While the content creator can make the content available under a different license, said license can't interfere with the license granted under the TOS unless the content creator removes their content from the 3D warehouse subject to the termination requirements. Even so, any use of the content by google or end users PRIOR to termination will remain protected under the license.

      If you are an end user (which you would be in this case) you can use that content in any manner described in the ToS, including:

      to reproduce the Content;
      to create and reproduce derivative works of the Content;
      to display publicly and distribute copies of the Content;
      to display publicly and distribute copies of derivative works of the content.

      There is no limitation on commercial use. The enumerated rights are those provided in Sec. 102 and 103 of the Copyright Act, and the act anticipates commercial use.

      Because EACH content creator grants this license for any works uploaded to 3D warehouse, this applies to every piece of content uploaded by content creators. Because the license to the end user is substantially similar to Google's license in the content uploaded, the "one model" argument makes little sense-- the license applies to all Content (all information, data, text, photographs, graphics, messages or other materials posted or displayed on Google Warehouse) generated by content creators.

      However-- bear in mind that you're relying on the integrity of the person who uploaded the content. If THEY infringed on someone's copyright in creating the work and you later use that work, you may also be brought into an infringement action. Google is protected under the DMCA safe harbor for service providers that create access to user generated content. You are not. As is always the case, it's usually smarter to come up with your own content to avoid most IP problems.

      ~Mona Ibrahim, Esq.
      J.D., LL.M.
      Trademark & Entertainment Attorney*

      (original link: http://www.gamedev.net/topic/537007-google-3d-warehouse-for-commercial-game/)

      Does the post above ring true, or do you understand the legal issues differently?

      Looking in the 3D warehouse, many users don't even post profile information so it would be difficult to even give them attribution for their work. In the last paragraph above she says "come up with your own content to avoid intellectual property problems" ... do commercial sites really go to this trouble? If the site got really popular what are the chances that the use of others' models would cause an issue?

      Please respond only if you are knowledgeable in intellectual property rights (similar to the quote I posted)... it's easy to assume but that may not be fact. If it matters from a legal standpoint I'm from western Canada.

      The reason I want to get this clarified is that I'm about to spend a lot of time basing a commercial site around the use of SketchUp models that exist already and wouldn't want it to get shut down later.

      Thank you

      posted in Newbie Forum sketchup
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    • Proper tool for the job?

      Hi there,

      I'm fairly new to SketchUp and have yet to integrate my models onto a webpage. Before I attempt to, I'm looking to meet this criteria:

      • User doesn't need to install an obscure/uncommon plugin before starting to interact
      • Ideally, no plugins needed
      • User can click on a "zoom hotspot" and have the scene shift a bit closer to that area (as if I was clicking on a saved scene in SketchUp)
      • After zooming in, the user can interact with items/hotspots that are hyperlinked

      Could you let me know what extensions or 3rd party program would be best to accomplish this? I really don't need them to be able to "walkthrough" the model, I want to keep it simpler than that, where I "control" their zooming and shifting capabilities. I guess I could simply export a bunch of still scenes to image and link between them (one zoomed out, one zoomed it)... but the transition effect that one sees during a scene zoom would be nice to maintain.

      Something from this page that will do the trick? http://sketchup.google.com/intl/en/download/plugins.html

      Thank you kindly ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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