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    • RE: Help understanding Victorian floor plan.

      @driven said:

      You may have already seen this in your travels, but I thought I'd add it for those contemplating the differences...
      the floor plans from his book appear to match the image...
      they are not 'flipped' and also don't show any 'hooks' outside the 'Butler's' room...[attachment=2:2grv657l]<!-- ia2 -->bignell_plan.jpg<!-- ia2 -->[/attachment:2grv657l][attachment=1:2grv657l]<!-- ia1 -->bignell_descript.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:2grv657l][attachment=0:2grv657l]<!-- ia0 -->bignell_house.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:2grv657l]

      john

      Who are you referring to when you say 'his' book? Mine? Mine is flipped and otherwise modified from the original floor plan. It's not Bignell house, it's just based on the floor plan. And both my map and the original do have 'hooks'. I just don't know what they're meant to be.

      EDIT: I couldn't see the images you'd posted before, as I had an adblocker. Indeed, the original floor plan perfectly matches the image, but there are hooks the version I was using. I'll link it. Its page isn't numbered as it's a plate but it's in the sixties. There's what seem to be pencil marks elsewhere in the book. That couldn't be what the hooks are, could it?

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    • RE: Help understanding Victorian floor plan.

      Thanks for the input, everyone.

      Calstock: Unfortunately I haven't found many images of the place, and moreover one of my chief concerns is in the outbuildings, and I've seen no-thing of them. And as Dave R says, the building no longer exists for a visit. Quite unfortunate.

      Dave R: Thanks very much, Dave. I actually couldn't thank you enough. I've learnt a lot here just now, and I'm googling this since January.
      So, does it indicate a door going to the well/cistern, from the dairy scullery?
      And I imagine you're not familiar with the hooks in 4?

      Wo3Dan: It is indeed mirrored. It's fairly different as well. I've expanded it very much, changed the main entrance, added corridors, and a couple of other things. And the actual building looks very different to the Bignell house. But I didn't want to remove the things I'm asking about as I could be removing something important.

      Thanks again, lads.

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    • Help understanding Victorian floor plan.

      Hi everyone, just looking for some help understanding symbols on older floor plans.

      If there's a good resource for understanding old floor plans I'd love that but I have yet to find one. This attached plan is my design but based on one from an 1875 book (Bignell House, in English Country Houses by William Wilkinson).

      So, I've numbered some areas on this floor plan and any insight'd be lovely.

      1. I've gone from thinking this circle here is a well to perhaps a boiler or something. I'm not immensely proficient in reading floor plans to begin with so I could be wrong but I would look at that and see a door going into the circle. Whatever it is I'd love to know how tall is it and should I cover it.

      2. There's four squares like this, two pair. Would they be support pillars at-all? I'd expect those to go straight through the whole thing but I could be wrong.

      3. Just below the water closet there we have a square and I don't know what it is. If I understand it, that's a door at the south end. But we're quite high up, so I don't understand the purpose of a door. There's a window on the north side of the square as well.

      4. Are these hooks or what?

      5. Some doorways appear not to be filled in in any way (most of them), some have a rectangle outlined but not shaded (the dairy, the side door on the south wall), some use dashed lines (this one I've numbered), the main hall has a half-dashed and half-solid outline, and several of the outbuildings have a single line near the outside of the doorway. I could make guesses to some of them but overall I'm confused.

      6. Everything that looks like this here is a fireplace I expect? Seen them look slightly different in books of the same era. As we're on the topic, is it correct that all fireplaces should end in a chimney directly above them protruding from the roof?

      7. What is this thing in all the water closets? I'm not absolutely certain of general plumbing efficiency in rich homes of the 1890s, which is when the game containing this building is set but I'd like to know. And what's in the bath-rooms (no fancy symbols on the plan, just asking)?

      Last question: I put a gigantic gable and it looks nice, but it's honestly very big. How realistic is it for that gable to be absolutely decorative and inaccessible? It's probably the biggest one. It just sits atop the whole building. It would complicate some things if gables are pretty much always attics but if that's the case I still need to know.

      Thanks very much.


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    • RE: Hours wasted, glitches killing me.

      I had this sorted almost immediately after posting the initial topic but I was having the same problem as yourself, Box. It must have to do with being a new member. After posting I edited the post as I'd forgotten something and noted an error, which apparently requires awaiting moderation if you're a new member. Well, then no-one put it through so I couldn't tell everyone the good news until much later. Then I edited that one (my keyboard is old so I make errors a lot) and it disappeared for a bit.

      So, I'd love to have my questions answered about SketchUp's faces and verts as compared with programmes like Maya and its polygons and verts, and additionally, in future, I'd like to provide the information that's apparently missing. What should I have done? just attach the file? I suppose I'd just assumed I couldn't possibly the first person to have this problem and that someone experienced would tell me it was common and how it's fixed.

      Thanks.

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    • RE: Hours wasted, glitches killing me.

      I've actually solved it, as far as I can tell. I was working in metres instead of centimetres, so my mansion was the size of a city, a hundred times its intended size. Now, precisely whythat caused these problems I have no idea, but I've had no further trouble since scaling down to the correct size and changing the units (which I was sure I'd done but it seems not).

      Anyone know just how Sketchup works in comparison with the polygons and vertices you'd see in a programme like Maya? Had my model a hundred times the number of faces it has now? or is each visible face in Sketchup a real polygonal face in other 3D programmes?

      Thanks.

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    • Hours wasted, glitches killing me.

      I loved this programme at first but it's lately just driving me mad. It makes broken lines and won't intersect faces or combine objects, and I don't know what to do. Sometimes it makes faces on top of each other and then I can't click the one I need, and sometimes it makes strange lines and when I delete them several faces disappear, and recently I found a bunch of invisible lines that wouldn't unhide and that I didn't draw intentionally. And this is going to go in a computer game, so I really don't want extra faces rendered anyway (nor should they be there in the first place).

      I have to spend hours trying to trick it into doing what takes seconds when it works right, and I initially thought a couple of my walls were slightly off from the axes but as far as I can tell they're all straight, and this is happening with nearly everything I draw now, whereas it only happened with one wall on my third day of using the programme, and then didn't happen for a bit, and gradually increased in frequency until now.

      I have no plug-ins.

      I also can't see textures. I've tried disabling hardware acceleration and all that. My graphics card is quite good and ought to handle this programme with no trouble. I use Maya and Unreal Engine 4 and have never had a problem. SketchUp did allow me import a floor plan image, however. It just won't apply textures. It simply changes the face colour to something similar to what the texture ought to be.

      Please help me before SketchUp makes me insane. Thank you.

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