“…a way to unity of a Christians…”?!

Behold A WAY!:

“For Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.” (2 Corintians 5:14-15)

Cornel

Tomasz wrote:
“My own experience of Love that fills the entire Universe with itself. 'The field' that is bringing everything to right place - gives a Peace. If my faith and faith of all Christians is true it will meat the reason one day”.

I think it’s doable, because God is omnipresent and God is love:
“We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.” (1 John 4:16)

Besides that, Jesus Christ said:
“If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love.” (John 15:10)

Cornel

Jakob,

You are partially right! Those quotations are apparently out of context, but, those who are interested, can use ‘Bible online’ (if they have no a hard copy of The Bible) for necessary information (for entire text).
In The Tribulation time (after The Rapture), 'things' will be different…!

Regarding “hundreds of years old”, again, you are partially right…!

• Why?
• Because:
  “THE WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER "(1 Peter 1:25)

Cornel

“How can we manage the Love ?”

Being ‘correct’…!?!:

"Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law." (Romans 13:10)

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Matthew 7:12)

Cornel

Some attributes of LOVE (combining "Eros, Agape, Filia, Caritas…"):

“Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth.” (1 Cor. 13:4-6)

SUPREME LOVE:
“This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends.” (John 15:12-13)

Cornel

Guys,

I wrote just a few ideas for those of you who desire A TRUE LIFE, not a "religious" one! Every person is direct (i)responsible for himself, for his faith! If that faith is based on his own idols (above, there are many deductive examples…), I’m very sorry for that ‘living human being’!

Think regarding “salvation”: “How shall we escape, if WE NEGLECT SO GREAT SALVATION…”?! (Hebrews 2:3)

Cornel

Modelhead, I’m sorry I’m late…!

You asked me a few times “why” I have that ‘position’, that faith?!

• WHY?! - Because I’m not a fanatic guy. I verified those ‘things’ (that I presented before) and they are true and vital, not just very 'interesting'!

Please, keep in mind this verse: “Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged.” (1 Corinthians 2:14)

Cornel

You are welcome, J.V.S.!

A 'bonus' for everyone:

SALVATION COMES THROUGH GRACE(offered freely and without merit), and only through grace (Ephesians 2:8-9; Titus 2:11-12; 3:4-5). The works of the Law and the merits of man have no role in the obtainment of Salvation (Galatians 2:16). Through personal faith in the complete work of our Lord Jesus Christ, people can enter in the possession of salvation: they are born again (John 1:12-13), their sins are forgiven (Acts 10:43), they become children of God and citizens of heaven (Galatians 3:26; 1 John 3:1; Ephesians 2:19). Through divine providence they are guided and kept saved (Romans 8:14; 1 Peter 1:5; Jude 1).

It is the privilege of everyone that is born again to be sure of their salvation right from the moment they accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. This assurance is not based on the merits of living, but on the testimony of God through His Word (Romans 8:38-39; 1 John 5:11-13).

Cornel

Being Born Again!

I believe in the necessity and possibility of being born again (John 3:7-16), which is the implantation of a divine nature in man (Jacob 1:18; Titus 3:5) as a response to faith in the death and resurrection of our Lord, Jesus Christ (John 1:12; Romans 10:9-10). Eternal lifeis a gift from God, and needs to be accepted in a personal way (Romans 6:23; John 20:28).

Cornel

P.S.: Modelhead, regarding your "...is not equal to": it's based on a personal decision... (mine/your resolution!!!)

J.V.S.,
Re that: "...how could it dwell with that collective"?!!

The Church (not buildings...) is composed of all those who are born again, and those which are united in the one body of Jesus Christ through the baptizing of the Holy Spirit, thus being limbs to one another (1 Corintians 12:13; Ephesians 1:22-23).
We are responsible for keeping the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace, rising above denominational prejudices and cult bigotry (Ephesians 4:3-6).

Cornel

Modelhead,

I presented 3 Person God (as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit), w/ warious Bible links, to prove that there aren’t any inadvertencies regarding Them!
... Plus you can see Their cumulate roles on Creation!

Cornel

Jacob,

1. I disagree w/ you re. Holy Spirit. He isn't in all of us, He isn't "a collective spirit", etc.

2. Seeing your ‘sentence’: “… the third guy of the trinity - Jesus: I am absolutely sure, that he was a real person some two thousand years ago. surely he was an extraordinary man, who had a very deep connection to the spirits around him.”

…I decided to show you my ‘position’:

I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and God the Son, both true God and man (John 5:20; 1 Timothy 2:5). I believe that Christ exists from eternity. He is not a creation, but the Creator, existing before anything was created (John 1:1-3). There was no time at which He did not exist (John 8:58, 24, 28). He is the eternal Son of God.

I believe that He is the promised One through the prophecies of the Old Testament, the One symbolized through the sacrifices, the rituals and ceremonies of the Old Testament.

I believe in His birth from the virgin Mary, through the power of the Holy Spirit. He had a body in the likeness of sinful flesh (Romans 8:3), but was without sin (1 Peter 2:22). He was perfect in all ways, holy, without blame, without blemish, separated from sinners (Hebrews 7:26).

I believe that He offered Himself as an atoning sacrifice for our sins (Hebrews 9:14; Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 4:10). The effectiveness and sufficiency of His blood is the essence of the Gospel of grace. He came to erase sin through His sacrifice (Hebrews 7:25-27; 9:26).

I believe in the literal, physical resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:4; Acts 2:24-32). His resurrection is the assurance and guarantee of our own resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:16-23). I believe that Jesus Christ ascended to heaven in the full glory He possessed before His embodiment. His ascension was made in a transformed, glorified body in which He is now standing at the right hand of God, mediating for us (Acts 1:9; 7:56; Hebrews 8:6).

I believe that Jesus Christ will rapture His church to heaven (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:21-52; John 14:1-3).
I believe that His second coming on earth is literal, visible and personal, in the same way He ascended (Acts 1:12; Revelation 1:7; Mattew 24:30). He will come as King of kings and Lord of lords, and will establish a kingdom on earth for 1000 years, time during which Satan will be bound (Revelations 19:11, 20:6; Zachariah 14:1-9).

I believe that at the end of those 1000 years Jesus Christ will destroy any evil resistance, He will destroy the current creation and will create a new heaven and a new earth where He will reign together with His chosen ones (Revelations 21:5, 22:3-5; 1 Corinthians 15:24-26).

Cornel
P.S.:..."Sorry, went on a bit longer than inteded"..."

Jakob,
Re. your P.S.: “ isn't religion/phylosophy something fantastic? this thread has been going on for 11 pages now and everyone is still attending it with so much energy and passion. everyone tries to konvince the other one that his own point of view is right and worth believing in…”

I know many ‘interesting’ philosophies, but I have no such ‘courage’ to invent a god. It’s too dangerous and very hazardous …! Because of that, I adopt Biblical description of the “true God”. Behold my succint conclusion:

I believe in the only true God (John 17:3) revealed in the Scriptures as the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Mattew 28:19). I believe in the oneness (Deut. 6:4), the trinity (Mattew 3:16-17) and the trinity unified as one God (Mattew 28:19). God is a spirit (John 4:24), infinite and perfect in all His attributes (Psalms 139:1-12), the One that created all things(Rev. 4:11), and keeps all things through the power of His Word (Hebrews 1:3). In Him we live, we move and have our being (Acts 17:28). He is the source, the sustainment and the finality of all things(Romans 11:36).

Cornel

Certainly not less important is the Holy Spirit...!

I believe in the personality and divinity of the Holy Spirit(John 14:16-17; Romans 8:26-27; Ephesians 4:30). He is one person of the Trinity (Mattew 28:18). He had a role in the creation(Genesis 1:2; Job 33:4), and has a role in people’s lives (John 16:8-17). He convicts the world of its sin; He regenerates and sanctifies (Titus 3:5); He dwells in all true believers (Romans 8:9). He never abandons the Church or even the weakest of all believers; He is permanently present to testify about Jesus Christ(John 14:17).

(Without quotations! ),
Cornel

Alan,

Following “the Bible verse that equates a single day with a thousand years in God's sight”, we aren’t limited to those "6,000 years"…!

Behold some times, based on that ‘phrase’:
Common year (y.) – 365,000 days (d.)
Lunar y. – 354,3700 d.
Gregorian y. – 365,2425 d.
Julian y. – 365,2500, same as Sothic y.
Ecliptic y. – 346,6201 d.
Tropical y. – 365,2422 d.
Sideral y. -365,2564 d.
Animalistic y. – 365,2596 d.
Fiscal y. - !! (vary?)
ETC. y. …
(For 6 "days", multiply please 6 times…!)

Cornel

Kwistenbiebel,

God has no preference (for atheists):

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some count slackness; but is longsuffering to you-ward, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
(2 Peter 3:9)

Cornel

Crucifixion was a specific method of romans…

See one of Isaiah prophetic verse (re. The Lord):
“But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised(on the cross) for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.”

Cornel

Alan,
Regarding “radimetric dating”, you can start w/ an easy article like this:
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c007.html

I wrote that latin expression is “orbe terrarum” and it wasn’t correct translated in English, as 'simple' spheroid...!

Cornel

Alan, see Proverbs 8:23-26:

“I* was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, before the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth, when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth, while as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the beginning of the dust of the world.”
(* ‘I’ means “The Wisdom)

There aren’t mentioned those “four elephants and a turtle”…,

In Latin Vulgate Bible, Proverbia 8:31, the shape of The Earth is described as an oblate spheroid:
“…ludens in orbe terrarumet deliciae meae esse cum filiis hominum.”
(In English, Proverbs 8:31 wasn’t translated properly…!)

Cornel

Solo,

1. Calculation based on ‘half-life’ of radioactive isotopesis is criticized by many scientists, for a long time (we can see many comments on the Internet…).

For ‘short-lived’ cathegory, because the result is influenced by the sun and by the atmosphere, there are additional questions as age of sun, not-constant atmosphere, configuration (stable?!!) of our planet system, etc.

Unsignificant variation in time of isotopes can implicate another question: which progress is proper to be considered – arithmetic (linear), geometric (asymtotic), or...?!

Supplemental question: aren’t there possible natural factors that can affect ‘half-life’ process, even to increase (to enrich) isotopes?!

2. Back to that video clip...., respective:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLD59fK_Iw

That film is an evident counterfeit!
Verify, please: calendars, astrology, names, locations, fashions, execution methods, narative manner, etc.
Beside that, no one till now, except Jesus Christ, was resurrected and remained alive forever.

Cornel