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    • chippwaltersC Offline
      chippwalters
      last edited by

      Few more questions..thanks for the previous answers! They helped greatly.

      When editing a group or component, is there a keyboard shortcut to 'back out' of edit mode? I know double-clicking a white space works, as does deselecting the component in the outline window. But if I'm in real close, and I don't have the outline window open, how can I 'escape' out of the group I'm currently 'in'?

      Is there any way to turn off the snap mode when moving an object? Sometimes, I'm in top view and I just want to rearrange things, and not have objects try and snap to each other.

      I'm pretty sure the answer to this one is 'No', but it never hurts asking. Is there any 4-view for SU (top,left,right,perspective)?

      Is there a way to 'see' a scene camera? If I want to place objects around the camera, I can't see where it is.

      That's all for now. Thanks a bunch 😄

      Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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      • ToboboT Offline
        Tobobo
        last edited by

        @unknownuser said:

        When editing a group or component, is there a keyboard shortcut to 'back out' of edit mode? I know double-clicking a white space works, as does deselecting the component in the outline window. But if I'm in real close, and I don't have the outline window open, how can I 'escape' out of the group I'm currently 'in'?

        If you push ESC that should bring you out of the group/component

        @unknownuser said:

        I'm pretty sure the answer to this one is 'No', but it never hurts asking. Is there any 4-view for SU (top,left,right,perspective)?

        There is a the standard views toolbar.

        http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/Newbie/Standard Views.jpg

        Not sure about the Camera question, sorry

        Toby

        Philippians 4:13

        I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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        • chippwaltersC Offline
          chippwalters
          last edited by

          Thanks for the escape trick...seems like the answer was already in the question 😉

          The 4 views I was asking about were 4 simultaneous views.

          Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            Hi chipp...

            You cannot have different views (or styles) simultaneously in the same window. You can, however, insert multiple views in LO - as Toby suggested.

            Also you can have several scenes where you can have different views but they won't appear simultaneously either.

            Gai...

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            • chippwaltersC Offline
              chippwalters
              last edited by

              I'm using SketchUp Pro. I assume once I put the 4 views in Layout, it's not a great interface for continuing modeling-- is it?

              Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                No, that's only for presentations.

                Gai...

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                • ToboboT Offline
                  Tobobo
                  last edited by

                  Sorry about that, early morning.

                  Which version of SU do you have. The pro version does come with LayOut that might help

                  Toby

                  Philippians 4:13

                  I can do everything through him who gives me strength.

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                  • Jean LemireJ Offline
                    Jean Lemire
                    last edited by

                    Hi Chipwalter, hi folks.

                    Menu Edit --> Close Group/Component.

                    Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                    • eevaE Offline
                      eeva
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                      @chippwalters said:

                      Is there any way to turn off the snap mode when moving an object? Sometimes, I'm in top view and I just want to rearrange things, and not have objects try and snap to each other.

                      I'm pretty sure the answer to this one is 'No', but it never hurts asking. Is there any 4-view for SU (top,left,right,perspective)?

                      hello chipp,
                      for rearanging in any view, try not to "grab" the item while moving. instead, click on it, choose move, and then klick somewhere else (read: blank space) for the start point of the move... this way you make sure, for example in top view, you will move it only along the green and red axis. and even while moving it diagonally, the object will not move along the blue axis.

                      and for the close group question: if you do a right click outside of your group, you can see in the context menu "close group/component". and now that you know, where the command is, you can define your own shortcut!

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                      • chippwaltersC Offline
                        chippwalters
                        last edited by

                        Thanks everyone for the help here! Much appreciated 😄

                        Was there anyone who could answer the question about how to show a scene camera's positon?

                        Thanks again.

                        Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                        • Wo3DanW Offline
                          Wo3Dan
                          last edited by

                          @chippwalters said:

                          Thanks everyone for the help here! Much appreciated 😄

                          Was there anyone who could answer the question about how to show a scene camera's positon?

                          Thanks again.

                          chippwalters,
                          Here are two skp’s (in 3DW) explaining how to go about:
                          (5 camera locations)
                          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=ce923a34212e4f37a5680e7c6a2da1e5

                          (camera->target)
                          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=bff2eb7c0259a7f7fe3d51ab481a8ce7

                          cheers,
                          Wo3Dan

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                          • chippwaltersC Offline
                            chippwalters
                            last edited by

                            Thanks Wo3Dan, those tutorials very helpful. I can deduce then there is no way to 'show' the camera position from an existing scene unless one previously set the camera to specific object's postion. IOW, you have to create an object first, then set the camera position to it.

                            Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                            • chippwaltersC Offline
                              chippwalters
                              last edited by

                              Wo3Dan,

                              I also found many of your other tutes valuable, especially the one on aligning a polygon face perpendicular to an arbitrary path in space. Thanks!

                              Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                              • T Offline
                                tomsdesk
                                last edited by

                                Chipp, to get the camera position of an existing page/scene:

                                Draw a horizontal (parallel to the bottom edge of your screen) line/edge anywhere on a horizontal face in the model, then move that edge vertical (blue-axis) until it matches "exactly" the model horizon.

                                Now, starting at the "exact" center point of your screen, on the edge now located at the horizon, draw a blue-axis vertical edge down to your horizontal face, then draw a line on that face to the "exact" center of the bottom of your screen...this is the first line pointing to directly below your camera position.

                                From another point on your horizon edge draw another vertical line done to the same horizontal face, but now, using your "lookaround" eyeballs, rotate this vertical so that it is at the "exact" center of your screen again (move the eyeballs along the horizon so you can keep the start and stop points horizontal). Repeat the line from the bottom of your vertical to the bottom center of your screen...your second pointer is drawn.

                                Now zoom out and continue the two lines until they intersect: below the camera, so draw up vertical to the height of the horizon edge and you have it!

                                Now I can go to sleep, thank you very much.
                                Best, Tom.

                                http://www.tomsdesk.moonfruit.com/
                                2.5D Trees & Shrubs!

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                                • chippwaltersC Offline
                                  chippwalters
                                  last edited by

                                  Tom,

                                  Thanks for that! Thought about it and I think one part may be wrong. The height of the camera is not necessarily the same height as the horizon, is it? For instance, a camera could be pointing up, no?

                                  After thinking about it some more--the camera's pointing has nothing to do with it's position. Maybe you are correct. I'll check it out 😄

                                  Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                  • Wo3DanW Offline
                                    Wo3Dan
                                    last edited by

                                    @chippwalters said:

                                    Thanks Wo3Dan, those tutorials very helpful. I can deduce then there is no way to 'show' the camera position from an existing scene unless one previously set the camera to specific object's postion. IOW, you have to create an object first, then set the camera position to it.

                                    Chippwalter,
                                    Sorry, I didn't notice that you want to approach this the other way around.
                                    Just upload a simple favorite example skp so that I can show you how. Include a scene that you want to be reproduced in another scene (NOT A SCENE COPY!) with the camera in the skp in 3D-space. Mind you it's not going to be 100% but almost.

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                                    • chippwaltersC Offline
                                      chippwalters
                                      last edited by

                                      Wo3Dan,

                                      Here one:

                                      Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

                                      favicon

                                      (sketchup.google.com)

                                      Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                      • Wo3DanW Offline
                                        Wo3Dan
                                        last edited by

                                        @chippwalters said:

                                        Wo3Dan,

                                        Here one:

                                        Error 404 (Not Found)!!1

                                        favicon

                                        (sketchup.google.com)

                                        Chippwalter,
                                        (Working on it, the "hardest" thing is to save steps to make things clear, not forgetting anything)
                                        b.t.w. in 'Shadow Settings' you can adjust ligth/dark and especially in your case: Display (shadow): on ground. I disabled that for good reasons 😉

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                                        • chippwaltersC Offline
                                          chippwalters
                                          last edited by

                                          Yeah, sorry for leaving it on. I was rendering in Podium and wanted the shadows! BTW, do you know if there's a way to extrude a curved surface, or a curved path? Thx. 😄

                                          Currently working with Cross-Reality technologies

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                                          • Wo3DanW Offline
                                            Wo3Dan
                                            last edited by

                                            @chippwalters said:

                                            Yeah, sorry for leaving it on. I was rendering in Podium and wanted the shadows! BTW, do you know if there's a way to extrude a curved surface, or a curved path? Thx. 😄

                                            What I meant is not turning off shadow but just that "ground (Z=0) will not show shadow". Your floor is below Z=zero. It's "underground", so to speak. The shadow at groundlevel is in the way. See your scene5.

                                            (camera W.I.P)

                                            Extruding a curved face: no
                                            Extruding along a curved path: yes(*)

                                            (*)

                                            • the curved path is coplanar: no problem
                                            • the curved path is 3D: the cross section of the extrusion will twist along the path.
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