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    • M Offline
      mateo soletic
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      Solo
      Those look great .
      About the great commisions, Yes I have to admit
      that some great opportunities are opening for
      us at the moment. The reason lies mainly in the
      fact that we have always tried to give the client
      more than we expected to get in return in financial
      terms and that had to bear its rewards sometime.
      Now we have a need for creative architects and
      designers because there are only two of us doing
      the whole thinking and the projects are just piling.

      [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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        solo
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        Cape Cod

        https://secure.reservexl.net/wwwimg/img/tours/519-2.jpg

        http://www.surfandsandmotel.com/images/ymthbch.jpg

        http://www.nicholsonprints.com/photos/PR7.jpg

        http://www.solos-art.com

        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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          mateo soletic
          last edited by

          Those last seem a bit too cold for our meditarenean temperament .
          Here are some umbrellas i photographed last week while in another town.

          http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/SketchUp/umbrellas.jpg

          [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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          • soloS Offline
            solo
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            Just give me a shout if ever you help on a creative project, it would be great to do something exciting again.

            The Miami theme

            http://www.awesomeflorida.com/images/miami_beach_big.jpg

            http://www.venere.com/img/hotel/7/0/1/6/226107/image_services_general_terrace_1.jpg

            http://images.worldspan.com/images/3523/LZ/LWMIA/A1001001A04K15B35700I08049W300.jpg

            http://www.solos-art.com

            If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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              solo
              last edited by

              I agree the thatched umbrellas work well.

              http://www.solos-art.com

              If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                mateo soletic
                last edited by

                Thanks Solo ,will do,If You get some good links in the meantime feel free to post this is an ongoing project,and Ill be keeping You informed.
                Thanks.

                [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                • EdsonE Offline
                  Edson
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                  hi mateo,

                  since you ask for suggestions i will give you an opinion. it is just my way of seeing things so please do not get annoyed at my sincerity.

                  i would not go for the theme park idea. leave it to disney and for cenographers. what the world does not need is more fake stuff. why pretend to be somewhere else than the place where those beaches are?

                  why do you not go for authenticity? i would try and uncover the local character (the so called genius loci) and accentuate it.

                  a theme park project will get old in a few years (to me they are born dead but anyway). something authentic may be interesting for decades or centuries. but you are the one to decide what to do.

                  edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                  http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    Giving the fact that there are four beaches and if Mateo wants to give a special character to each, there should be some difference and most probably not only in the arrangements of bars and sunbrellas.

                    The first two that he picked (pirates and fishermen) are actually quite authentic for the region - true the pirates may be outdated by now.

                    True that quite faraway places may not be a good idea to "copy".

                    They could even be "separated" by activity though. One for more sporty like things, the other for recreation and rest, sunbathing etc.

                    Gai...

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                      mateo soletic
                      last edited by

                      Edson ,

                      Thank You for Your interesting and usefull comments.
                      Yesterday I was watching a film shot in Brasil
                      and there was a remark someone said :
                      Brasil is more than a country it is a
                      sensation .

                      Your country is renovned for its copacabana
                      Beach, samba and outdoor life.
                      You have a tradition in that.
                      Do You know that one of the major beaches in
                      Dubrovnik is called Copacabana.Its been called
                      like that for the last thirty years.
                      I am sure that there would be some interesting
                      details however small that we could adopt
                      from Your part of the world and in a subtle way
                      incorporate into a local atmosphere.

                      An example of this would be a palm tree.
                      We have had palm trees in my area for centuries.
                      But never until recently did someone (see my photo
                      above) start using the leaves to cover beach bars and
                      make umbrellas. Is that genuine or not.
                      Not in the fact that we have used it before -we didnt.
                      Could we have used it Yes but we didnt use anything.
                      During my childhood days and that was the 70s 80s
                      we lived in comunism and the beaches were empty.
                      (Gaieus -You remember that)
                      The last thing someone had in mind is to design a beach.

                      And tell You what , the umbrellas look great and everyone loves
                      them. This little detail gives place a charm.

                      Another issue is the fact that we have to fulfill the
                      expectation of the owners and that of the guests.
                      I know that the owners will be expecting great
                      moves and the guests will probably be expecting
                      local authenticity as You have said.

                      What if our local beach ways are like i mentioned
                      above boring for the owners and dont meet the
                      expectations of the guests and need to be accencuated
                      with some fresh imported ideas.

                      This is what I was thinking about .
                      The last thing I would want is to make Disneyland
                      out of this.

                      Edson if You come across some ideas from Your
                      part of the world that could be incorporated here , again in a subtle manner Ill be more than gratefull.

                      Thanks in advance.
                      Mateo

                      [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        I was there in the early 80s with a lot of people around - maybe not in 4 and 5 star hotels though but i liked it...
                        😄

                        Gai...

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                          Don't overlook the forgotten era of the Tiki bar. These Polynesian fantasy environments were popular in the US back in the 50's. They were built as theme bars with their own exotic style of art, design, music, and drink. There are a lot of images on the web and a great book on the style is available on amazon.com - The Book of Tiki by Sven A. Kirsten.

                          -Gordon

                          P: gmurray

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                            mateo soletic
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            Don't overlook the forgotten era of the Tiki bar. These Polynesian fantasy environments were popular in the US back in the 50's. They were built as theme bars with their own exotic style of art, design, music, and drink. There are a lot of images on the web and a great book on the style is available on amazon.com - The Book of Tiki by Sven A. Kirsten.

                            -Gordon

                            Thanks Gordon, thats what I had in mind kind
                            of shabby look but with more local materials
                            like rough local stone wood...

                            [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                            • EdsonE Offline
                              Edson
                              last edited by

                              mateo,

                              what i was referring to is the idea of making one or all beaches follow a consistent look (miami, copacabana, it does not really matter).

                              but i have nothing against umbrellas, trees, etc. my suggestions would be to create pergolas, bars with verandahs, places for groups and couples. you can get a warmth-feeling arrangement with wood, bamboo, fabric, color. all this without resembling directly another place.

                              once i saw in florida how they create wooden walkways over the dunes, a great way to protect the environment and still be able to use it.

                              decks are a good idea too, people like wood everywhere. another idea would be to create some kind of pool with sea water, much in the way siza did in the outskirts of oporto.

                              i hope i helped you in some way.

                              edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                              http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                                mateo soletic
                                last edited by

                                Yes it did Edson very much thank You.
                                I am writing down all Your suggestions
                                on paper geting ready for the first
                                meeting hopefully end of the week.
                                No sketches yet just some brainstorming
                                and we will see in which direction this
                                will go.
                                Thanks again,
                                Mateo

                                [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                                  bertb
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                                  Hello matteo,
                                  I did a beachbarproject on a Greek island not so long ago.
                                  Remember these projects are all about atmosphere and if the present location is sufficient it is not a big problem to make something nice
                                  I will attach some examples
                                  If you want more , just let me know
                                  Succes
                                  Bert

                                  http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/SketchUp/navagio8colSU.jpg

                                  http://www.sketchucation.com/forums/scf/sas/SketchUp/navagio9SU.jpg

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                                    mateo soletic
                                    last edited by

                                    Bert,
                                    The layout and the design looks really interesting.
                                    Thanks for sharing.
                                    I would really like to see the final images of the
                                    finished project if they are available.

                                    [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                                      mateo soletic
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks,Im writing it all down.

                                      [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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                                        Scotty T
                                        last edited by

                                        Hum....good one.

                                        Four you say. How about one for each different occasion.

                                        One for the single life person looking to get away and maybe do some social activity.

                                        One for the romantic married couple on a honeymoon or anniversary.

                                        One for the married couple with children. Kid friendly design but educational about the area they are in.

                                        One for the retired couple looking to relax as they travel the world after they have completed the top three above.lol.

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                                          Scotty T
                                          last edited by

                                          Oh and dont kill yourselves if you get behind.

                                          Dont forget about the job board and those of us out of work...hint hint!!!!!

                                          Good Luck.

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                                            mateo soletic
                                            last edited by

                                            @scotty t said:

                                            Oh and dont kill yourselves if you get behind.

                                            Dont forget about the job board and those of us out of work...hint hint!!!!!

                                            Good Luck.

                                            Thanks a lot Scotty,
                                            Well to tell You the truth we are all on the edge. There comes a time when all is going great and before You know
                                            it You are down the hill again.

                                            [Concept Illustrations](http://concept-illustrations.com/)

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