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    [Plugin] HouseBuilder metric 1.2

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    • GaieusG Offline
      Gaieus
      last edited by

      Well, I have never used either version (and I am as good at programming in ruby as you seem to be). I only knew about that plugin but that's all where my potential help ends I am afraid...

      Gai...

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        Didier Bur made this metric version from the original imperial one, and added some new things like the section-list.
        As you probably found he has 'encrypted' the code by packing it; so, unlike many scripts, it is not easily adjusted using a Notepad editor, a brain and a little effort...
        Whilst some of us know how to undo this encryption it would be unethical to mess with the code without his permission.
        Can I suggest you PM Didier direct and ask [nicely] that he looks at converting his metric version into an updated imperial '/" version - I'm sure that many US users would appreciate it too... It might be as simple as changing the section-list and a few lines of code in the scripts to '/" defaults rather than metric... 🤓

        TIG

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        • gullfoG Offline
          gullfo
          last edited by

          you'd almost want a wish list of things to add: 😮

          1. switchable between metric and imperial 😄
          2. skin thickness and perhaps a settable offset value so skin on adjoining wall/floor/ceiling/roof join on edges correctly...
          3. skin and rim joists on floor (ability to select rim joints as lumber and joists as engineered for example)
          4. openings in floor (create floor/ceiling framing with openings for stairs, AC vents, etc)
          5. openings in roof (skylights, hatches)

          basically the last two would apply the window and door functionality to the roof and floor objects.

          Glenn

          http://www.runnel.com

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          • irwanwrI Offline
            irwanwr
            last edited by

            this is the best wood building construction tool that i know
            especially because it works with metric too 😉
            i hope Didier would like to take a look at it again for more improvement

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            • R Offline
              raineysky
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              Mr. Didier,

              I'm not bugging you for an Imperial version 😉. Just bumping the thread

              Also, to those who have used this plugin. Can you create a realistic cutlist from it? I don't really have a use for it right now but I know there will be a day.

              [off:3mk4hcm1]BTW I'm working in a Sawmill right now drying 135,000 bd. ft. of 2x6's in one kiln and 66,000 in another [/off:3mk4hcm1]

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              • kachuppK Offline
                kachupp
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                Great script, I'm having trouble changing global roof properties "lumber size" it reverts back to its default 16x50 everytime. I edited the sections txt file to reflect the common timbers sizes in NZ. 16x50 none existant in the edited file. SO my question is it hard coded into the packed script ❓

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                • kachuppK Offline
                  kachupp
                  last edited by

                  @kachupp said:

                  Great script, I'm having trouble changing global roof properties "lumber size" it reverts back to its default 16x50 everytime. I edited the sections txt file to reflect the common timbers sizes in NZ. 16x50 none existant in the edited file. SO my question is it hard coded into the packed script ❓

                  First I must apologize for decoding the encoded script. Done!
                  The above was hard coded into the script Fixed!

                  I love what you did with it using the external section file 😍

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                  • R Offline
                    raineysky
                    last edited by

                    Seems to me that a script like this that made Hip Roofs would be very valuable to builders. I've seen a bunch of the roof plugins but none that make hip roof rafters. Don't even know if it's possible and as you can probably tell, I'm no carpenter.

                    Still wishing for the imperial version of this one too 😄

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                    • S Offline
                      spireup
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                      Does anyone know where HouseBuilder stores the Section List on a Mac? I cant seem to find it.

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                      • M Offline
                        mwm5053
                        last edited by

                        @ raineysky there is it was actually done before the metric I use it all the time. It's here at Ruby Library Depot.

                        http://rhin.crai.archi.fr/rld/plugin_details.php?id=185

                        @ spireup what do you mean sections?

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                          spireup
                          last edited by

                          @mwm5053 It appears the program generates a walls quantities estimate.. Im sure Ive used it on the PC before.The tool icon is hb_estimate_L.png...

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                            raineysky
                            last edited by

                            MWM5053,

                            It does Hip and Valley rafters?

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                            • M Offline
                              mwm5053
                              last edited by

                              No just hip one ridge I tried a hip and valley and I to really work at intersecting and clean up the rafters.

                              2011 iMac
                              SU 2015 Pro, 2017 Make
                              V2 Twilight
                              macOS Sierra 10.12.5

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                                raineysky
                                last edited by

                                Ok. Thank You

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                                  Futurepast
                                  last edited by

                                  Does this have the same error as the original? In the original, the first spacing from the first stud to the second was entered as "outside to outside" instead of "outside to center" (that is off by 3/4" on a 2/ imperial). The rest of the wall was run on center from that, that 3/4" error throws 4' siding off (unless you want to cut the first sheet)

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                                  • kachuppK Offline
                                    kachupp
                                    last edited by

                                    @futurepast said:

                                    Does this have the same error as the original? In the original, the first spacing from the first stud to the second was entered as "outside to outside" instead of "outside to center" (that is off by 3/4" on a 2/ imperial). The rest of the wall was run on center from that, that 3/4" error throws 4' siding off (unless you want to cut the first sheet)

                                    Yes it does. . same error
                                    In the code he has a TODO list thats one of them.

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                                    • C Offline
                                      craigcampbell66
                                      last edited by

                                      In need of some help. I have got the housebuilder plugin installed on desktop and laptop. Trying to run the metric version. It loads fine on the laptop (I have only installed the metric version) but on the desktop (I had the original imperial version installed previously) I end up with mixed parameters ie imperial and metric in the same dialogue box. Have tried deleting from the plugins folder and reinstalling but always the same result. Driving me nuts.

                                      any help appreciated.housebuilder dialogue box screengrabhb2.JPGhb1.JPG

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                                      • gullfoG Offline
                                        gullfo
                                        last edited by

                                        did you delete to imperial housebuilder folder? (or change it's name?), plus remove any housebuilder references in the plugins folder, then clean install the metric version. also ensure the units for the drawing are set to metric.

                                        Glenn

                                        http://www.runnel.com

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                                          craigcampbell66
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                                          @gullfo said:

                                          did you delete to imperial housebuilder folder? (or change it's name?), plus remove any housebuilder references in the plugins folder, then clean install the metric version. also ensure the units for the drawing are set to metric.

                                          I have tried to delete all housebuilder folders (there is only 1) and the Housebuider.rb file from the plugins folder and then re open sketchup8 pro to find the plugin still available. Checked the plugins folder (C drive, programs etc etc) and the folder and .rb files are gone. Have tried to re-install and overwrite existing. Still no joy. I don't understand why I have half and half (imperial/metric) in the same dialogue box. Also lost as to why the plugin is still available when I have deleted it from the plugins folder.

                                          I suspect that help with removing it successfully will help me in clean installing it to get up and running with an uncorrupted version.


                                          photo of plugins folder showing no housebuilder folder or rb and sketchup open showing housebuilder available, up and running. Damned resilient, I'll give it that.

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                                          • gullfoG Offline
                                            gullfo
                                            last edited by

                                            and you're installing clean from the source zip file? i actually have both versions running by simply renaming the load files and the directories when i need to switch (add or remove ".MET" off the metric loading file and directory, and add or remove ".IMP" on the imperial version) and they both work ok. somehow i'm thinking you must have either mixed these versions up and are restoring from that? or the installation is in another folder (tools? or a secondary plugin folder - like a pre-compiled menu or toolbar plugin)which is causing this effect.

                                            Glenn

                                            http://www.runnel.com

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