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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
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      In the UK 'space-saver' stairs [alternating-treads] are allowed if accessing limited upper-floor space, and they meet a set of rules... e.g.
      https://www.loftcentre.co.uk/loft-stairs-spirals/space-saving-stairs
      In Ireland there are similar, if different, possibilities...
      https://connollystairs.ie/product/space-saver-attic-stairs-ireland/

      TIG

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      • L Offline
        L i am
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        @tig said:

        In the UK 'space-saver' stairs [alternating-treads] are allowed if accessing limited upper-floor space, and they meet a set of rules... e.g.
        https://www.loftcentre.co.uk/loft-stairs-spirals/space-saving-stairs
        In Ireland there are similar, if different, possibilities...
        https://connollystairs.ie/product/space-saver-attic-stairs-ireland/

        Thanks for clarifying TIG, about 8 years ago part of my job was building compliance in Australia. So it makes sense for things to have changed with higher density living initiatives including shipping containers. Australia may have moved on the building codes, we often move inline with the UK ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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        • Mike AmosM Offline
          Mike Amos
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          Thinking a bit about this, is there a need/use for a thread about these projects? Something where people can exchange idea's and ask questions? Example, just what would be considered essential for a small home to be habitable without the resident going completely round the bend and, I don't know, go into politics?

          Something I was thinking for Mr Mayor's project is a roof that can be pushed up like an awning, making an opening for summer. Possibly have a screen for the biters.

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          • Mike LuceyM Offline
            Mike Lucey
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            @mike amos said:

            Thinking a bit about this, is there a need/use for a thread about these projects? Something where people can exchange idea's and ask questions? Example, just what would be considered essential for a small home to be habitable without the resident going completely round the bend and, I don't know, go into politics?

            Something I was thinking for Mr Mayor's project is a roof that can be pushed up like an awning, making an opening for summer. Possibly have a screen for the biters.

            Hi Mike,

            I also think a thread for these kind of projects would work well. Possibly a sub forum for design projects in general where members here that are in various fields of design could show projects to the general community and at the same time benefit from concrete feedback.

            Such a sub forum might also transition into a place that would allow the designers to sell the designs via SketchUcation thus generating income from their work.

            I take your points regarding a cabrio roof and screen for 'biters' but here is Ireland we really don't get a lot sun and we have very few 'biters'. I have modified the design further to include a fixed cantilevered canopy. I'm currently finalising a short presentation movie and will load a link to same shortly for comment.

            Mike

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            • Mike LuceyM Offline
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              I've simplified and finished the design for the Tiny House and am now putting the presentation movie together. I should have it finished a in couple of days and will post here.

              The key to the simplification was the use of the Friheten Sofa Bed which is available at IKEA.

              I am attaching shots showing how this sofa bed transforms.


              FRIHETEN SOFA BED Gif 1.jpg


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              FRIHETEN SOFA BED Gif 3.jpg


              FRIHETEN SOFA BED. Gif 4.jpg

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              • Mike AmosM Offline
                Mike Amos
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                I am convinced that ratio of depth to width is the key to real habitability in these small properties. 2 to 1 seems to be a sweet spot.

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                • daleD Offline
                  dale
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                  These aren't quite as tiny as yours Mike, but the idea of pocket neighbourhoods is worth a look. He also includes lot of fine innovations.

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                  Pocket Neighborhoods โ€“ Ross Chapin Architects

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                  Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                  • Mike AmosM Offline
                    Mike Amos
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                    Interesting link. ๐Ÿ‘

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                    • Mike LuceyM Offline
                      Mike Lucey
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                      I've finished the Tiny House design. It's now quite a simple design suited to a single user or couple. Here are a few images of the Tiny House also a link to a short short video.
                      https://vimeo.com/594255773


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                      • Mike AmosM Offline
                        Mike Amos
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                        Mike, that looks bloody good actually. ๐Ÿ‘

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                        • daleD Offline
                          dale
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                          Very well considered Mike. It is a real challenge to get all that is needed in such a small place. I think you have had total success.

                          Just monkeying around....like Monsanto

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                          • pilouP Offline
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                            Small is beautiful! โ˜€

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • Joe WoodJ Offline
                              Joe Wood
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                              When will this get built Mike? Are you going to help with it? We'll need plenty of pics!!

                              Joe Wood
                              woodsshop.com/

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                              • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                Mike Lucey
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                                Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated.

                                Joe, As I mentioned, I designed this for a client/friend that is looking at possible ways of increasing his tourist revenue by having some Tiny Houses in the large rear garden of his rental unit. He quite likes the design but it will boil down to price per unit and of course obtaining planning permission. However, I am optimistic that the project will move ahead in the near future and I will of course post progress info/pics.

                                Here is a pic of the airbnb rental unit (yellow house). It's located in Liscannor, Co. Clare, Ireland a very popular tourist destination with some great award winning pubs. In fact, to the left of the unit is a Egan's bar a very popular watering hole that I've stumbled out of a few times:lol:

                                Yellow House.jpg

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                                • Mike AmosM Offline
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                                  Looks like a great watering hole. I do not mean to intrude but thought this might be if interest to folk.

                                  https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10902-016-9732-2

                                  It's a treatise on the psychology of living in a small home that has several insights.

                                  Sorry Mike.

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                                  • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                    Mike Lucey
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                                    Nothing to be sorry about Mike. I read through and found it very interesting and the conclusions accurate.

                                    I have often thought that the balance between living area and bedroom area could be better handled. When I think about it, it doesn't matter how large a person's bedroom is when they are using it for its primary use .... to sleep in. It could be just a little over the size of the bed!

                                    I think bedrooms could be better planned with the use of transforming furniture and sliding partitions which would allow for part of the bedroom to become common areas. This might work well in the case of children's bedrooms. Imagine two bedrooms side by side with the ability to convert to two (mini) bedrooms with a play/hobby area in the centre in which the kids could have their friends join them in various activities. This might even be a possibility with the parent's bedroom(s) and the guest bedroom.

                                    If I can find the time I would like to do an exploratory design exercise to see what might be achieved.

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                                    • TIGT Offline
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                                      The traditional Japanese tatami house does just what you suggest with a small core which is adjustable with sliding partitions and cupboards full of extra tatami-mats [6'x3'each]

                                      My main worry with this project is as you hone it down it's becoming more like either a garden-shed, a caravan/camper-van or a small boat...
                                      But I don't want to dis your ideas, I think they are interesting...


                                      PS:
                                      The new BBC detective series 'Vigil' [set an a trident submarine] shows how you can cram mixed uses into small spaces - although sleeping in a third-level bunk with ~500mm spacing, with two belts to strap you in while you try to sleep your 4hours seems somewhat unappealing !

                                      TIG

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                                      • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                        Mike Lucey
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                                        @tig said:

                                        The traditional Japanese tatami house does just what you suggest with a small core which is adjustable with sliding partitions and cupboards full of extra tatami-mats [6'x3'each]

                                        My main worry with this project is as you hone it down it's becoming more like either a garden-shed, a caravan/camper-van or a small boat...
                                        But I don't want to dis your ideas, I think they are interesting...


                                        PS:
                                        The new BBC detective series 'Vigil' [set an a trident submarine] shows how you can cram mixed uses into small spaces - although sleeping in a third-level bunk with ~500mm spacing, with two belts to strap you in while you try to sleep your 4hours seems somewhat unappealing !

                                        Constructive crit is always welcome TIG. In fact I am my own biggest critic as I never know when a design is actually finished.

                                        I was aware of the Jananese system but must look it up again. If you have any links, I would appreciate it.

                                        I came across a great article on the use of pods for homeless people some time back. I'll locate it a post here.

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                                        • Mike LuceyM Offline
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                                          I've found an article, Traditional Japanese House Floor Plans (with Drawings), which describes the 'Minka' house. It has some interesting features and a unique measuring system!

                                          Minka House.jpeg[attachment=0]

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                                          Traditional Japanese House Floor Plans (with Drawings)

                                          The mere mention of Japan makes one think of sushi, anime, ramen, Godzilla, and Mt.Fuji.This โ€œLand of the Rising Sunโ€ is also a hotbed of the latest technology and avante-garde fashion.

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                                          • bazB Offline
                                            baz
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                                            I have been living in my TH for nearly 5yrs now. Very happily. I thought I might share this cool way of living with others.
                                            But I have learnt several things in this time.
                                            A. Dont bother engaging with FB groups to share. 50% wannabees, 40% wankers, 10% shysters.
                                            B. Dont engage with commercial builders of TH's. Mostly greedy bastards who dont give a shit. And have only basic skills not suited to a TH barrelling down the road at 80klm
                                            C. I could go on but I've lost interest.
                                            D. Put me down as a nihilist.
                                            E. Make sure you have an oven. And a deck.
                                            xx

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