'Climate Change' and Carbon Tax ... Your Thoughts
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@mike amos said:
The grasslands that cattle feed on take in more CO2 than the cows expire, the difference is methane which nobody out there is talking about methane as a problem.
Cows have evolved to be really good at eating and digesting grass. If, as some would have it, we all switched to a plant based diet would that affect the balance of CO2/methane production? I would hazard a guess that we are nowhere near as good as cows when it comes to living on just green stuff. What would the world look like then? Or more to the point - smell like? Also, what about all the trousers that would go south without the support of a good leather belt! Hold on, there's always plastic I suppose.
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It is actually very simple - the Nature just can't cope with our consumption anymore.There is no more balance, no time to recover. And we are trying to solve the problem with ..."green" consumption! Ironically, the Nature just gave us a sign - the Coronavirus forces us to restrict our consumption in many ways!
"Satellite images have shown a dramatic decline in pollution levels over China, which is "at least partly" due to an economic slowdown prompted by the coronavirus, US space agency Nasa says."
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Simply put, there are too many of us.
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@mike amos said:
Simply put, there are too many of us.
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A couple of thoughts to ponder.
According to Forbes in 2018:
World Oil Production Per Day - 92.6 Million Barrels
@ 39.4 Imperial gallons per barrel, that means that per year,Oil 1,179,585,100,000 gallons are produced (Trillion)
Natural Gas 355,000,000,000 cu ft (Billion)
Coal 8,561,852,178 Tons (billion)
These numbers have risen steadily over the last 8 years for Oil, Coal is down to a 1% increase last year.
There is of course natural sequestration of some of this, and not all is put directly into the atmosphere, but is used to produce products such as plastics etc.I heard a great analogy. If we think of our atmosphere as a glass of water. If you add a little salt to that water, no problem, you can still drink it with no harm, a little more salt, starts to taste, but still the body can handle it.
If you keep adding salt there is a point where the water cannot be consumed without adverse effects to the body. In fact at first you feel nausea, weakness and even delirium. As you become more dehydrated, the coping mechanism fails. If you still don't drink any water to reverse the effects of excess sodium, the brain and other organs receive less blood, leading to coma, organ failure and eventually death. -
Sadly there are people looking to make money either side of the equation and they drive the solutions. Pure electric has an ecological cost just like ICE does but the problems is that the ideology of change is fixated on that being the only way. The grasslands that cattle feed on take in more CO2 than the cows emit, the difference is methane which nobody out there is talking about methane as a problem. There was a story in the media about crustaceans expiring CO2 and how this was a new problem. Newsflash guys, anything that uses O2 will put out CO2.
The life emissions of my car are I am sure quite reasonable despite being quite old but the CO emissions beat the regulations for cars 25 years younger by a healthy margin (1/3 of the permitted level actually) due to good servicing and maintenance and not being replaced by newer vehicles which have more gadgets and are heavier etc. I still get people telling me I am evil and should get an electric car. People are fixating on one thing which is never a good idea when dealing with real problems and as it is stupid I get more than a bit annoyed at the money grabbers. Did anyone consider the extra pollution created by all the extinction rebellion protests? No because it is inconvenient.
Just a point on packaging. We were arguing about the excess of plastic packaging etc when I was in school and the industry said it would take thirty years to solve and government gave way. What is there argument now that they are making the problem worse but have had more than the thirty years to fix the problem? Anything worthwhile?
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Another slant on things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTXdhTwO320
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I am all for improving the climate, just not some of the people/motives behind the current rubbish being spouted and the profiteering that goes on.
Sadly 
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