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    TIG Moderator
    last edited by 29 Mar 2017, 12:17

    There are ways to use an existing class and add to it or 'refine' it etc within your own module[s].
    But that will provide the new class/method when called within your module - but not outside of it.

    Since the DC code is calling its class/method directly, then your own method-wrapped additions will not be seen by it.

    Since you are only using this code for yourself [?] I see little wrong in adding directly to the DC class and then making your own separate code within your own module[s] to do other things.
    The method I provided only adds the new method it it doesn't exist [for example some other code is adding it or in the future it's added to the main shipped class.

    It is bad form to mess with shipped classes etc, but sometimes you must do it - e.g. this DC class methods are used directly in the DC functions...

    TIG

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      michaelwhksg
      last edited by 29 Mar 2017, 22:56

      Thanks for the advice, TIG. Appreciate your input.

      At this moment, I am using the code for myself. However, I am also looking at opportunity to release the dynamic components I have created into the Extension Store.

      I have seen the recommendation that you have shared with others in the forum. One way of getting the DC component to be dependent on the plugin is to give the DC component a function defined in the code. The DC component will not work without the plugin.

      How can we use the class DCFunctionV1 within the name space (our own module) so that it fulfills the requirement of a good practice of a plugin? This is the question I am trying to get around. Any recommendation on this?

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        TIG Moderator
        last edited by 30 Mar 2017, 10:44

        I don't think you can do it wrapped inside your module.
        It needs to add the function-method to the DC class directly, so that it's then seen by the DC function calling that class.
        If you define it within your module it's your module's class and will not be seen.
        Even if you 'refine' it or use it in other ways it's new methods are only seen in your class.
        You need to change the DC class directly !

        Changing a shipped class might get you into a mess on the EWH.
        You could of course sell it separately...

        TIG

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          TIG Moderator
          last edited by 1 Apr 2017, 13:03

          Can you please format your code using the 'code' tags and indent it.
          It's very hard to read as it is...

          Your example is still changing the shipped class, so it will probably fail EWH checking...
          You can but submit it, and wait and see.

          You do not need the convolutions you added - they do nothing to a DC and still change the shipped class.

          I can see no way you can do this and distribute it via the EWH, unless they agree to your class additions which technically break their strict rules...
          😕

          TIG

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            michaelwhksg
            last edited by 3 Apr 2017, 02:57

            Hi TIG. Sorry, will use the "code" tags in future.

            Will try to submit once I have cleaned up the code.
            Fingers crossed, but I have a feeling that you are right. It might get rejected.

            It will be a pity though, because I believe there are many members who are able to build up the dynamic components (which can speed up and simplify the entire modelling process), but there's no way to prevent the DC from being distributed without the authors' agreement.

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              Dan Rathbun
              last edited by 4 Apr 2017, 00:04

              @michaelwhksg said:

              Hi TIG. Sorry, will use the "code" tags in future.

              (1) A better idea is to edit your previous post, and insert the code tags.

              (2) The example is STILL wrong in that the check for method definition still uses the name atan2.

              (3) Yes, please use a unique method name, as your implementation of the atan2 method (specifically the parameter list) is not how the rest of the world would define it for use by ALL coders.

              I'm not here much anymore.

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                michaelwhksg
                last edited by 4 Apr 2017, 06:31

                If i am using the code which you have shared, and keying DCFunctionsV1.instance_methods.sort in the Ruby Console, I do see atan2 appearing in the console.

                However, if I tried inserting the DCFunctionsV1.instance_methods.sort into the code, an error message appeared.

                Below is the code which I have tried...


                # add_funcs.rb
                # extends DCs functions
                require('sketchup')
                
                module ABC
                module ABC123
                
                if Sketchup.version.to_i <= 8
                  require('dynamiccomponents.rb')
                else
                  require('su_dynamiccomponents.rb')
                end
                if defined?($dc_observers)
                  # Open SketchUp's Dynamic Component Functions (V1) class.
                  # only if DC extension is active
                  class DCFunctionsV1.instance_methods.sort #(did I do this correctly?)
                    protected
                    unless DCFunctionsV1.method_defined?(;atan2)
                      # access to Ruby's arctangent method
                      # Usage; =atan2(y,x)
                      def atan2(a)
                        return Math;;atan2(a[0],a[1]).radians
                      end
                    end#unless
                    protected;atan2
                  end#class
                end#if
                
                end #module ABC123
                end #module ABC
                
                

                This generated an error message.

                "Error Loading File arctan-test2.rb
                Error: #<SyntaxError: C:/Users/wongh/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/arctan-test2.rb:16: syntax error, unexpected '\n', expecting :: or '[' or '.'
                C:/Users/wongh/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2017/SketchUp/Plugins/arctan-test2.rb:30: syntax error, unexpected keyword_end, expecting end-of-input
                end #module ABC
                ^>"

                Is there anything I have done wrongly?


                arctan-test2.rb


                arctan-test.skp

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                • M Offline
                  michaelwhksg
                  last edited by 4 Apr 2017, 06:44

                  Since we are unable to wrap the class DCFunctionsV1 in the name space, if we just submit the script with 2 parts, one of which is the DCFunctionsV1 and letting the formula be defined as my own unique name, and the second part which is wrapped within my name space, will this work? Will EWH team accept this?

                  For example,...

                  # add_funcs.rb
                  # extends DCs functions
                  require('sketchup')
                  if Sketchup.version.to_i <= 8
                    require('dynamiccomponents.rb')
                  else
                    require('su_dynamiccomponents.rb')
                  end
                  if defined?($dc_observers)
                    # Open SketchUp's Dynamic Component Functions (V1) class.
                    # only if DC extension is active
                    class DCFunctionsV1
                      protected
                      unless DCFunctionsV1.method_defined?(;XXXXXX)
                        # access to Ruby's arctangent method
                        # Usage; =ABC123
                        def (we give this definition a unique name)
                          return XXXXXX (my own unique formula)
                        end
                      end#unless
                      protected;ABC123
                    end#class
                  end#if
                  
                  module ABC
                  module ABC123
                  
                  codes to be in the name space
                  
                  end #ABC123
                  end #ABC
                  
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                    michaelwhksg
                    last edited by 5 Apr 2017, 05:33

                    Hi Dan,
                    Thanks for the feedback.

                    1. Have already edited the previous posts with the code tags.
                    2. Have changed the example slightly (removal of the name atan2).
                    3. Will use my unique name for the formula in the DCFunctionsV1 class.

                    Will try to submit the extension after I clean up my code.
                    Thanks.

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                      michaelwhksg
                      last edited by 5 May 2017, 23:52

                      Hi TIG, Dan,
                      Is there any resources online that shows how we can input the licensing code to our script? The below web link automatically directed me to another webpage instead of the licensing tutorial.

                      http://www.sketchup.com/intl/en/developer/docs/tutorial_licensing

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                        Dan Rathbun
                        last edited by 15 May 2017, 19:36

                        The licensing tutorial was removed pending an overhaul. No amount of asking has resulted in any estimation of when the tutorial will be edited and reposted.

                        Julia Christina Eneroth has posted her own licensing tutorial with test code at GitHub:
                        https://github.com/Eneroth3/Sketchup-Api-Licensing-Test

                        I'm not here much anymore.

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                          Dan Rathbun
                          last edited by 15 May 2017, 19:39

                          There is a problem with licensing. You will likely NOT pass the extension review if you alter the DCFunctionsV1 class in your extension code.

                          I'm not here much anymore.

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                          • T Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by 15 May 2017, 21:42

                            This has been discussed in a circle !

                            I said earlier that any code which was altering a 'built-in' class [like the DC's] was like to fall foul of the EW checkers, and of course [thereby] its licensing regime...
                            It would be possible to write a 'non-compliant' extension which did change the DC's class and publish it BUT it can't be downloaded through the EW [there are many other options] - and if it's to be licensed it'll have to be done through another licensing system [again there are several others]...

                            It is somewhat perverse that SketchUp freely distributes its DC tools, but then does not allow any additions to be made to that code - even with the strictest trapping to avoid overwriting new methods or clashing with other authors - it seems to make the DCs something of an evolutionary dead-end...

                            TIG

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                              Dan Rathbun
                              last edited by 19 May 2017, 20:22

                              (TIG, I know you said this, but apparently the OP didn't understand it well.)

                              I would prefer that Trimble updates the DC code to add all those missing math functions that Scott did not implement, (... perhaps because Google Docs Spreadsheets did not support them at that time ?)

                              And then I'd like them to be serious about implementing nifty new DC Functions that users request, in a timely manner !

                              I'm not here much anymore.

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                                michaelwhksg
                                last edited by 21 May 2017, 21:16

                                Thanks, Dan. Will take a look at Julia's tutorial.

                                I do agree that some improvements can be made to the DC functionalities. This will definitely benefit a lot of users.

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                                • topic:timeago-later,16 days
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                                  michaelwhksg
                                  last edited by 7 Jun 2017, 05:06

                                  Just an update to everyone.

                                  After a few rounds of re-submission of my extension to meet the stringent requirements, this time, it is taking slightly longer than usual. I am still waiting for the status of being published in the Extended Warehouse.

                                  In any case, below are some of the screenshots I have created for the extension.

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                                    michaelwhksg
                                    last edited by 16 Jun 2017, 16:35

                                    Hi, does anyone know how long it takes to get an extension approved by the Extension Warehouse Team normally?

                                    After a few rounds of back and forth and updating the extension, I submitted the extension again on 29May. Aside from getting the one auto-response, I did not hear anything else.

                                    I then resubmitted again on 13June. Still no change in the status.

                                    Any advice on this?

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                                      Dan Rathbun
                                      last edited by 16 Jun 2017, 21:57

                                      They have been known to be slow. Perhaps it's the summer vacation season ?

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                                        michaelwhksg
                                        last edited by 17 Jun 2017, 00:01

                                        Oh I see. Thanks a lot Dan. Will wait for the feedback from them then.

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                                          michaelwhksg
                                          last edited by 22 Jun 2017, 23:39

                                          Hi TIG and Dan, good news. My extension is being approved by the EWH team and the trial version is now in the Extension Store.

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                                          (extensions.sketchup.com)

                                          Like you mentioned previously, the EWH team initially rejected the idea of having the DCFunctionsV1 approach. After I explained the rationale of using it, they finally gave the approval.

                                          Seems like there's light at the end of the tunnel.

                                          Thanks.

                                          My next challenge will be the licensing issue.

                                          I went thru Julia Christina Eneroth's tutorial, but still have some questions. For example, in the code, ext_id = "15dfa30f-4957-4549-8cdb-e97b5727a13a", I am unsure how this comes about.

                                          Anyway, one way I circumvent this is to have the trial version in the Extension Store and the full version in my website (still fixing up the shopping cart in my website though).

                                          Thank for the guidance. You guys rock!

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