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    • sketch3d.deS Offline
      sketch3d.de
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      the SU display and print ouput as well as the raster export is done by the OpenGL stack of the used video driver by default.

      For testing if the GPU of your Quadro K4000 is the bottleneck rendering high resolutions, disable the hardware based raster image processing of SU under "Window > Preferences > OpenGL" before exporting to a raster format.

      Be aware, that doubling the image resolution (width/height) squares the amount of raster data to calculate.

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        blackdogsketch
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        @sketch3d.de said:

        the SU display and print ouput as well as the raster export is done by the OpenGL stack of the used video driver by default.

        For testing if the GPU of your Quadro K4000 is the bottleneck rendering high resolutions, disable the hardware based raster image processing of SU under "Window > Preferences > OpenGL" before exporting to a raster format.

        Be aware, that doubling the image resolution (width/height) squares the amount of raster data to calculate.

        Thanks. So what does Hardware Acceleration do? Is the graphics card handling the generation of raster images either way? I've never understood what role the CPU and the GPU play in sketchup operations.

        UPDATE: I don't really notice any significant difference with HA turned off.

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        • JQLJ Offline
          JQL
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          CPU should handle calculations while GPU should handle display of viewport, where geometry complexity, styles, shadows, textures will play a huge role.

          GPU rendering should be faster than CPU and distributing the load is a must. However CPU's and GPU's have limited resources.

          On the CPU side you have speed and RAM amount.

          On the GPU side you have speed and Vram amount.

          If Ram or Vram have reached the limit, your model will stall. Maybe that's what's happening.

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            blackdogsketch
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            @jql said:

            CPU should handle calculations while GPU should handle display of viewport, where geometry complexity, styles, shadows, textures will play a huge role.

            GPU rendering should be faster than CPU and distributing the load is a must. However CPU's and GPU's have limited resources.

            On the CPU side you have speed and RAM amount.

            On the GPU side you have speed and Vram amount.

            If Ram or Vram have reached the limit, your model will stall. Maybe that's what's happening.

            How can I tell if investing more $$$ into a better card will have the desired effect...and which card to go with?

            Obviously I'm not WORKING with these styles and shadows on, and generally working display is not an issue. (yeah, sometimes the model is slow, but I can deal with that generally). It's at the end of modeling where I have a large model, complex building with textures, landscape with entourage components and textures, etc. where I want a sketchy graphic style and shadows that I have the issues. I need the horsepower to get that through the GPU.

            One last question...in all the years I've been working with Sketchup, I've never contacted the company...and I really cannot see how to do that. Can anyone point me to Sketchup tech help? thanks.

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            • sketch3d.deS Offline
              sketch3d.de
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              @blackdogsketch said:

              How can I tell if investing more $$$ into a better card will have the desired effect...and which card to go with?

              you can't... go with a nVidia Geforce GTX 960 or better (Asus Strix or MSI TwinFrozr are fine). Check the wattage of the power supply (>= 350 W) and the available space of the case before doing that.

              @blackdogsketch said:

              Can anyone point me to Sketchup tech help?

              • Support Form
              • offic. SketchUp Forum

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                blackdogsketch
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                @sketch3d.de said:

                @blackdogsketch said:

                How can I tell if investing more $$$ into a better card will have the desired effect...and which card to go with?

                you can't... go with a nVidia Geforce GTX 960 or better (Asus Strix or MSI TwinFrozr are fine). Check the wattage of the power supply (>= 350 W) and the available space of the case before doing that.

                @blackdogsketch said:

                Can anyone point me to Sketchup tech help?

                • Support Form
                • offic. SketchUp Forum

                Thank you.

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                  blackdogsketch
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                  @sketch3d.de said:

                  @blackdogsketch said:

                  How can I tell if investing more $$$ into a better card will have the desired effect...and which card to go with?

                  you can't... go with a nVidia Geforce GTX 960 or better (Asus Strix or MSI TwinFrozr are fine). Check the wattage of the power supply (>= 350 W) and the available space of the case before doing that.

                  @blackdogsketch said:

                  Can anyone point me to Sketchup tech help?

                  • Support Form
                  • offic. SketchUp Forum

                  So when I disable hardware acceleration, is the GPU still doing all the graphics export work?

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                  • JQLJ Offline
                    JQL
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                    I believe GPU is out of the equation when you disable hardware acceleration.

                    I'm using a Titan X, wich has 12Gb. If you want to share your model I'll try exporting your image and see if that works. Just tell me what your style is.

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                    • sketch3d.deS Offline
                      sketch3d.de
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                      @blackdogsketch said:

                      Thank you.

                      btw, don't 'full quote' for a two word reply.

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                      • sketch3d.deS Offline
                        sketch3d.de
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                        @blackdogsketch said:

                        So when I disable hardware acceleration, is the GPU still doing all the graphics export work?

                        no, the rendering is then done in software by the CPU. Depending on the horsepower of the CPU this may not be much slower (or faster) than the GPU, especially in connection with integrated/shared low-end solutions like the intelHD series of many notebooks.

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