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    thomthom
    last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 00:06

    @fredo6 said:

    But I don't know how to reach the others

    PM me who you are looking for - I'll see what I can do. I have the ChaosGroup contacts for sure - but I should be able to obtain other as well.

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      solo
      last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 17:01

      I have had so many issues in the past with the available tools/plugins, that is why this is a huge thing.

      See video below, a recent attempt to use SU and Thea, It failed and i needed to finally go into Thea studio to complete animation. I also needed to have layers animate, so I could show and hide panels, will it be possible with this plugin?

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        fredo6
        last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 21:16

        @solo said:

        I also needed to have layers animate, so I could show and hide panels, will it be possible with this plugin?

        Animator should normally support layer visibility, either attached to views or independently of views.

        Below a short example. Watch the green cylinder and red cube, and layers panel.

        [attachment=0:1ubxfxj3]<!-- ia0 -->Animator%20Layer%20visibility%20simple.gif<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1ubxfxj3]

        Fredo


        Animator Layer visibility simple.gif

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          JQL
          last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 21:40

          Fredo and what about animating stuff by cycling through scenes as usual, is it also possible?

          I mean it's so advanced in it's own that I can't understand if that is a possibility as it's what a basic animation plugin for SU does...

          If it is, can we do it without showing UI? In fullscreen mode, to present stuff live to an audience?

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            fredo6
            last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 22:07

            @jql said:

            Fredo and what about animating stuff by cycling through scenes as usual, is it also possible?

            I mean it's so advanced in it's own that I can't understand if that is a possibility as it's what a basic animation plugin for SU does...

            If it is, can we do it without showing UI? In fullscreen mode, to present stuff live to an audience?

            Animator is not based on the native Scene animation mechanism of Sketchup. You can actually position the animation at any given time. Indeed, it is possible to develop a small GUI to make short cuts to specified time.

            Also, there is a Player mode, with a much smaller palette. I plan to make the option to hide it when playing animation.

            Animator Player mode.gif

            Fredo

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              pilou
              last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 22:51

              Seems very promising! 😎

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                JQL
                last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 23:07

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                  fredo6
                  last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 23:15

                  @jql said:

                  We will find something you didn't think of! πŸ˜„

                  That's why the thread was started πŸ˜„

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                    Pixero
                    last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 23:20

                    What about how hierarchies are created?
                    Can that be made separate from how objects are grouped?
                    And what about inverse kinematic?

                    I'm also very interested in ways to fine tune camera animation paths and speed.

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                      fredo6
                      last edited by 3 Feb 2016, 23:21

                      @pixero said:

                      What about how hierarchies are created?
                      Can that be made separate from how objects are grouped?
                      And what about inverse kinematic?

                      I am not clear about what is "Reverse kinematic" and "hierarchies".

                      Could you illustrate ?

                      Fredo

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                        Pixero
                        last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 00:10

                        Forward kinematics. You rotate a shoulder and the arm and hand follows.
                        Inverse kinematics. You move the hand and the arm and shoulder rotates to match the hands movement.

                        I think it would be great to have a way of creating the hierarchy independent of how objects are grouped.
                        Something like bones in other software where you create a structure that you bind geometry to.
                        How you model and group geometry doesn't always match how you want to animate them.

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                          Rich O Brien Moderator
                          last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 07:33

                          How do you control the motion of an object over time? Is it linear interpolation?

                          If an object moves along X at 2m/s can you control the acceleration from 0 to 2m/s in some way?

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                            fredo6
                            last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 08:03

                            @rich o brien said:

                            How do you control the motion of an object over time? Is it linear interpolation?

                            If an object moves along X at 2m/s can you control the acceleration from 0 to 2m/s in some way?

                            This should be addressed with Easing, which is supported in the Animator engine (in the initial video, you can see that the explosion of Homer is accelerated).

                            But I still need to build the GUI for custom easing.

                            By the way, I don't know if the appropriate term in English would be 'Easing' or 'Pacing'.

                            Fredo

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 08:38

                              @fredo6 said:

                              By the way, I don't know if the appropriate term in English would be 'Easing' or 'Pacing'.

                              Easing.

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                                Rich O Brien Moderator
                                last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 09:25

                                Will the easing have types?

                                anim-fredo.png

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 4 Feb 2016, 09:42

                                  Will be cool for animate gears! 😎 (a new gear plugin by Caermalo)

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                                    majid
                                    last edited by 5 Feb 2016, 16:49

                                    @rich o brien said:

                                    Will the easing have types?

                                    [attachment=0:1tzh4w5t]<!-- ia0 -->anim-fredo.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1tzh4w5t]

                                    Mover plugin had some easing as I remember
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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 5 Feb 2016, 16:59

                                      There is a nice lib on GitHub for easing in Ruby:
                                      https://github.com/munshkr/easing-ruby

                                      And nice visualisations here:
                                      http://easings.net/

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                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by 5 Feb 2016, 22:01

                                        @thomthom and Majid,

                                        Animator should support predefined easing and custom easing. Simply, I need to build the GUI for custom easing.

                                        Animator also supports oscillations (i.e. cyclic movement back and forth), either libnear or smooth as sinusoidal curves.

                                        Fredo

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                                          thomthom
                                          last edited by 6 Feb 2016, 07:25

                                          Time to start another donation round for Fredo!

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