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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
      last edited by

      @dpaul said:

      Gutters, downspouts, and other pieces of your trusses/roof plugin will be of value to us, of course.

      But since you are now widening the use and scope of the plugin to roofs and entablatures themselves, can I suggest a close look at GET YOUR HOUSE RIGHT--architectural elements to use & avoid-- by MARIANNE CUSATO?

      I believe studying the parameters she highlights as historically correct can only be of real help to how you precisely lay out new plugin parameters (for example, how the half-round gutter fits on the entablature, or how 'poor man's greek return' could be done easily and accurately. And so on....).

      All best.

      Bought it and a couple others for good measure. I'm still working on the straight skeleton but I'm also wanting to add in some of the finishing touches to a roof so that the plugin can actually be utilized by architects and designers.

      The roof, and the entire structure for that matter, is similar to the human body. The trusses and framing is only the skeleton. We need all of the other components to make the assembly whole.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
        last edited by

        Preview of the E-Style or "Box Gutter":

        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su301_800.jpg

        Note that I've also added the downspout options and parameters. The units don't show in this screen shot but they will within the plugin.

        This type of gutter is probably more common in commercial applications.

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • jujuJ Offline
          juju
          last edited by

          Attached ZIP file with some PDF's and DWG's of frequently used system, at least in South Africa. The files may be relatively old, but they are still current.

          I think the profiles relate closely to some of the various style variants you refer to.


          Watertite.zip

          Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
            last edited by

            Version 2.0.5 - 11.05.2017

            • Added gutters and downspouts for rafter and truss hip roofs.
            • Gutter menu added to the global settings.
            • Custom roof layer added for gutters in the layer menu within the global settings.

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su302_800.jpg

            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su303_800.jpg

            I still need to add gutters and downspouts to the gable roofs (truss and rafter).

            Four gutter types with two different downspout types.

            This is a new feature so please send me your feedback and I will try to address all of the issues.

            The gutter shown is a 6" half round with a 2.75" round downspout. The gutter and downspouts are separate solids so that one can easily adjust the placement of the downspouts after the fact.

            The downspout angle is 15 degrees, with a 3" drop out of the gutter and a downspout center line radius of 3".

            View model here:

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            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su304_800.jpg

              K-Style gutter with "2x3" downspouts.

              I may need to add a few more user configurable variables:

              • offset from bldg. corner (currently I have it offset 0" from the framing)
              • offset from framed wall (currently I have it offset 1" from the framing)
              • downspout radius (currently set at 3" @ CL)
              • downspout drop (currently set at 3" before the first bend)

              Right now these values are all hard coded into the plugin.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Version 2.0.5b - 11.06.2017

                • Fixed a minor bug with the downspout module, downspout solid is now a uniform extrusion with no unnecessary seams or edges.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • medeekM Offline
                  medeek
                  last edited by

                  Version 2.0.5c - 11.07.2017

                  • Fixed a minor bug with the gutter layer for installation upgrades of the plugin.

                  If you have version 2.0.5b please upgrade to this version or be sure to open up the global settings and click on the layers tab, this will create the default gutter layer setting.

                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                  design.medeek.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Version 2.0.6 - 11.10.2017

                    • Added gutters and downspouts for rafter and truss gable roofs.
                    • Added gutters and downspouts for dutch gable rafter roofs.

                    I still need to add gutters to monoslope truss roofs, shed roofs and some other specialized truss roofs. Adding the gutters to the common truss roof became slightly more complicated when I realized I also had to deal with roof returns and their various configurations.

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su305_800.jpg

                    This gable roof has a hip return with fully wrapped gutter, you can also choose to half wrap or no wrap (linear gutter only at eaves, does not wrap around corner).

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su306_800.jpg

                    The dutch gable is really no different than the regular hip roof, when it comes to the gutter and its configuration, but internally it is a completely different set of advanced options.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • pbacotP Offline
                      pbacot
                      last edited by

                      Very nice looking models!

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Half wrap of a hip roof return:

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su307_800.jpg

                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su308_800.jpg

                        All of the gutters and downspouts are constructed as solids so that it is easy to manipulate them with Pro's boolean tools or other third party solid tools.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          Version 2.0.6b - 2017.11.11

                          I've added a text file in the materials sub-folder that allows one to modify the available materials (colors) for the gutters within the global settings menu.

                          The default values are:

                          8B4513:BROWN
                          B87333:COPPER
                          C0C0C0:SILVER
                          FFD700:GOLD
                          8B0000:DARK RED
                          0000CD:MEDIUM BLUE
                          006400:DARK GREEN
                          556B2F:DARK OLIVE GREEN
                          FFFFF0:IVORY

                          If all of these custom materials are deleted then only "white" will be available "FFFFFF" in the global settings.

                          The first six letters is the RGB value for the color, the description after the colon is the color name.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by

                            The Medeek Seal of Authenticity:

                            Medeek Seal of Authenticity

                            This will be shown in the new license tab of the plugin global settings when the copy is fully registered.

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Had a little fun with AutoCAD and SketchUp yesterday. I created the arc aligned text in AutoCAD first and then imported the DXF, then completed the solid model in SketchUp:

                              http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/COA_MEDEEK5.jpg

                              I can't believe I used to solid model in AutoCAD, what a clunky interface for that sort of thing. I will say though that AutoCAD is still king when it comes to 2D drawings though, SketchUp has a ways to go in that regard.

                              Even solid modeling in SolidWorks seems really slow and awkward now, and that used to be my goto for anything 3D.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Version 2.0.7 - 11.16.2017

                                • Added license tab to the global settings.
                                • Minor updates to the licensing system.

                                I've spent a couple days on adding language support but was unable to roll it out with this latest release. I will keep working on this in the next few days and hopefully have something to show for my efforts with the next major release.

                                As far as languages go I am planning on producing language files for each of the SU supported languages.

                                Any help with translating some of these very construction specific terms and phrases would be greatly appreciated. Google translate seems to work quite well but I don't completely trust some of its translations.

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  Starting to make some head way on the translation / language support:

                                  http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su309_800.jpg

                                  I've decided to devise my own language handler since I could not get the built in one to work.

                                  The upside is that this allows me so support any language I choose, not just the languages supported by SketchUp. I will be adding in an option in the general settings where the user can select their language of choice.

                                  I will also be storing the language data in a new sub-folder "lang". My intent is to be able to make it possible for the user to add their own language file and translations if they need to.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    I've identified a couple of major bugs with the gutter module when using metric templates. I will address those later today and roll out a sub-release. I apologize for not catching those earlier.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      My first menu in Japanese:

                                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su310_800.jpg

                                      Fortunately, I know a little Japanese so I think I've got these more or less correct. I will probably need to have a native Japanese speaker who is familiar with the construction industry check these over for me.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        I've added in a language option into the General tab of the Global Settings:

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su311_800.jpg

                                        I currently have nine languages that I will support however if there are any others that you would like to see added please feel free to suggest one.

                                        I think this method is preferable over using the locale of the installed plugin since someone that is running a french version of SketchUp may want to run the plugin in English or some other combination. This allows the user to customize their user experience exactly.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          Version 2.0.8 - 11.18.2017

                                          • Added language support for the following languages: French, Spanish, German, Russian, Swedish, Japanese, Korean, Chinese.
                                          • Added a language option in to the "General Tab" of the Global Settings.
                                          • Fixed a bug in the gutter module for metric templates.

                                          There is still a huge amount of work to get all of the menus translated into the eight languages given above.

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            I apologize Version 2.0.8 had a fatal flaw in it that thankfully someone pointed out to me this morning. Please re-download sub-rev. 2.0.8b which addresses this issue immdediately.

                                            The problem is that I am encrypting the .rb files into .rbs when I sign the plugin. I don't want to encrypt the language files in the "lang" folder however the signing page did not know to discriminate so it encrypted those files as well and hence broke my links to them from the plugin load module.

                                            Once I sign the extension and encrypted it I had to re-open the .rbz and put back in the unencrypted language files, problem solved.

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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