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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
      last edited by

      The current Medeek Truss Plugin menu now has 5 icons:

      http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su_menu.jpg

      The available items are the following:

      1.) Draw Roof Truss:

      • Common
      • Attic
      • Monopitch
      • Scissor

      2.) Draw Floor Truss:

      • Floor Truss
      • TJI Joist

      3.) Draw Truss Set:

      • Valley Set

      4.) Draw Roof Rafters:

      • Gable Roof
      • Gable Roof w/ GLB
      • TJI Roof w/ GLB
      • Hip Roof

      5.) Engineering Calculations:

      • Truss (common truss types only)

      Note that the menus show additional items that are either being worked on or are planned for future releases.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
        last edited by

        I can probably link up the Beam Calculator to the plugin as well for analyzing Glulam Beams however the use of these tools still requires some basic knowledge with regards to appropriate design parameters and options.

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        The other thing to note is that the engineering tools are specific to US standards at least for now:

        AWC NDS 2012 or AWC NDS 2015 (lumber, timbers, glulams, sheathing)

        and

        IBC 2015 and ANSI TPI 1-2014 (trusses)

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          The truss component in SketchUp is not fully dynamic yet, however if you right click on the actual truss component and open the Dynamic Component -> Component Options dialog box you will see that you can change some options associated with the truss. The items grayed out you cannot currently change but I would like to try and make some of them dynamic as well.

          if you make a change here and then proceed with the engineering you will notice the new values are then sent to the calculator. The dynamic attributes revealed in this dialog are what is being sent to the calculator for engineering.

          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
            last edited by

            I've done some maintenance on the beam calculator in preparation for integration with the Truss Plugin:

            Version 1.0.1 - 01.10.2016

            • Updated javascript front end so that selected options are properly retained.
            • Updated total load (reactions) to include applied load and selfweight over total span. Results now more closely agree with WoodWorks Sizer Software.
            • Inputs now include option for Total Span and Clear Span.
            • Removed beam configurations that are not yet complete.
            • Beam graphic now shows span geometry with supports.

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            At some point I need to come up with a slicker interface that allows for multiple point loads and supports but that is a job for another day.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              Version 1.2.5 - 01.10.2016

              • Plugin integrated with the Medeek Beam Calculator.
              • Engineering of North American glulam beam sizes enabled (Western, Southern Pine).

              Also note that the Beam Calculator has a very nice PDF report output than can include client and job information.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                Screenshot of the Beam Calculator that will pop up when called from the plugin:

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su53_800.jpg

                So far I only have glulam beams as an option in the plugin but I will probably add LVL, LSL, PSL and Solid Sawn and those can also be analyzed with this same interface.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • jujuJ Offline
                  juju
                  last edited by

                  Is the manual a WIP?

                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    My wife is helping with the manual. I'm also going to make a few tutorial videos per some requests from other users. I think at this point the plugin is complicated enough it warrants more complete documentation.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      First tutorial video:

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • pbacotP Offline
                        pbacot
                        last edited by

                        Watched the video. Good job! Quite clear and nice to watch.

                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        • G Offline
                          glro
                          last edited by

                          @medeek said:

                          First tutorial video:

                          thank you for the video

                          i remember the difficult part, when i was designing wooden structures, was the connections between the members...

                          designing the connections might be a useful feature

                          i am longing to see a video about how you use the parameters in the dynamic component dialog box, as an input for your web calculator...

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                          • facerF Offline
                            facer
                            last edited by

                            IFC Classifications
                            I do not see IFC definitions of the truss components.
                            Will this be included in future versions of your plugin/extension?

                            T2H BuildingStructureTools (by Tak2hata) is a good example of the implementation
                            of SketchUps IFC Classifications.

                            Keep up the good work - I learn a little more about Trusses
                            with each or your new posts 😄

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              I have not even looked into the IFC classifications yet. At this point I'm not even sure how to classify a truss with that classification system. I will look into that further.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Engineering Video:

                                The SketchUp model used in the video can be found here:

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                                3D Warehouse

                                3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                All of my sample models can be found here:

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                                3D Warehouse

                                3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  Valley Truss Set:

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Hip Roof Framing:

                                    SketchUp model used in the video can be found here:

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                                    3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                    (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      Somewhat of an aside for other plugin developers or those using the API to create geometry:

                                      I found with the compound miter cuts required for the hip roof framing that the easiest way to handle this was by doing a push pull to the correct length so that one side of the member was the correct length and then actually selecting an edge or vertex and moving this separately to create the angles required. In some cases this can get a little messy since it may introduce extra lines that bisect a plane but some simple logic can then delete those extraneous lines after the fact. I don't know if this is the most efficient method to do this sort of thing but after some testing I managed to get it work very reliably.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        @pbacot said:

                                        Watched the video. Good job! Quite clear and nice to watch.

                                        My wife says I need to stop clearing my throat as I talk, other than that I think they mostly get the point across.

                                        I'm still working on the manual, I've been busy the last few days so progress is slow. I've been looking around at other plugins the last few days and I'm beginning to wonder if my price point on this might be too high, most plugins are either free or a few dollars. Feedback in this regard is very much appreciated. I don't intend on making a lot of money on this project but I feel that I should at the same time be fairly compensated for the time and effort I have devoted.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • jujuJ Offline
                                          juju
                                          last edited by

                                          You could always take one of the early versions of the plugin, with limited functionality (limited to say a certain type / types of trusses and possibly limited spans) and release it as a free version (probably without support, else you'll be inundated with queries), this is to wet people's appetite and to get them to use the plugin and buy into the paid version (with full and expanded functionality). You already have the full version going (rename to pro?), then there's a third tier (engineering version?) possibly as per the PM I've sent you.

                                          Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            Testing the limits of the Medeek Truss Plugin with complex hip roofs. Note that the roof primitives have not been trimmed back. This is primarily a study to determine what additional programming would be required to generate this type of roof automatically:

                                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/truss_su54_800.jpg

                                            This for me would be the holy grail of hip roof framing...

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                                            3D Warehouse is a website of searchable, pre-made 3D models that works seamlessly with SketchUp.

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                                            (3dwarehouse.sketchup.com)

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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