3D Truss Models

pbacot

Nice work. It is scary how much you are able to do and what goes into all this. The clean output is what we see--and so many options worked in.

For texture I think you also have to look into ruby to find out how to orient it the way you want. It doesn't matter what texture you use.

There are some good NPR wood textures in the Sketchucation store, but I am not sure if it contains one that would give you the fresh douglas fir look.

medeek

Thank-you for the vote of confidence. Sometimes I feel like I am digging a bit deep when it comes to all of these options it certainly adds to the amount of code required and the complexity. Some options are also dependent on others so it becomes a tangled web that requires careful analysis to mare sure that certain options can still work when others are not enabled. The good news is that I've probably got most of the options added to the fink truss that I will ever add so further complexity should not be too much of a problem. Now it is just a matter of adding different truss types, and other related items, more breadth and less depth.

If it can be mathematically modeled then it can be programmed into the plugin. What you are seeing on your screen or in SketchUp is a visual representation of a mathematical model of the truss group and associated framing.

medeek

Version 1.1.5 - 11.25.2015

Added Double Fink common truss type.
Structural outlookers (vert. & horz.) enabled under advanced roof options for Common (Double Fink) truss type.

medeek

Version 1.1.6 - 11.26.2015

Added Fan and Mod Queen common truss types.
Structural outlookers (vert. & horz.) enabled under advanced roof options for Common (Fan & Mod Queen) truss types.

Four more common truss types still need to be added:

Double Howe (6/6)
Mod Fan (8/4)
Triple Fink (8/7)
Triple Howe (8/8)

For very large buildings one could also consider:

Quad Fan (10/5)
Quad Fink (10/9)
Quad Howe (10/10)
Quin Fan (12/6) ...

A quad fink truss (10/9) with a raised heel (slider):

juju

Wow, seriously, wow. How is the manual coming along?

medeek

What format would be the best for the manual? I am kind of thinking along the lines of HTML documentation similar to the way SketchUp help files are organized but I'm still thinking about this.

The biggest problem right now is the plugin has been rapidly progressing and evolving so its a bit hard to set out a manual that won't need major revisions/rewrite in the very near future.

I'm thinking though in another month or two I should have something together.

pilou

You must also think for Multi-languages of your UI !

medeek

Valley Sets are here:

Proceed with caution though I just put it together so it is still a bit rough around the edges. Further testing and refinement is necessary but it seems to be working fairly decently.

Currently the main roof plane and two points need to be selected rather carefully I'm not sure I can do much about that, if not I will need to document in some detail how to use this function.

medeek

@pilou said:

You must also think for Multi-languages of your UI !

I've been thinking about adding some global settings so one can set language, defaults and other misc. items.

medeek

I've addressed a few bugs with the valley set algorithm and tested it in as many configurations and orientations as possible. It it more solid now. I suggest downloading the latest version of 1.1.7 that I just uploaded to the server.

Note that the plane of the main roof that is selected needs to be a rectangular shape at the moment to properly register (1st point selected). I usually just select the top face of one of the top chords of the trusses. The second point should be at the centerline of the last truss of the secondary roof line and at the ridge (peak) of this truss, the third point is also at the ridge (peak) but at a point towards the main roof. I really need to put the manual together to document this feature and how to use it, or at least a video.

I also updated the geometry algorithm slightly so that it adds additional verts a 48" o/c when the valley trusses get too large. This is keeping in line with standard practice on these types of valley sets. I can also make this an input if someone requests that it be such.

This update was not that complicated (valley sets) other than trying to figure out how to place the set based only on a plane and two points. Obtaining this information and then figuring out the math and code to compute the vertical distance between the bottom of the first valley truss where it rests on the main roof plane and the peak of the secondary roof line was the slightly painful part. The actual geometry of the valley set was surprisingly easy to code.

The real challenge will begin when I try to add some hip sets, I may push that out for awhile.

medeek

Here is an example of a large valley set with a Monopitch Primary Roof and a Common Secondary Roof. Notice the pitch of the monopitch roof is 6:12 while the secondary roof is 12:12.

Rather than calculate the overhang for the secondary roof it is just as easy to to trim the truss tails back and adjust the fascia so that it lines up with the fascia of the main roof after the fact.

Even with all the automation of certain tasks there is still a good bit of manual editing required when complex roof lines are involved however I find that SketchUp has a very intuitive interface for trimming solids and once the basic geometry is there the rest is usually not too much trouble.

medeek

With the main roof sheathing:

juju

I think the most universal is probably to have the manual in PDF?

medeek

I think I'll create in MS Word and then save it into PDF.

medeek

This revised code seems to work:


module Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions

	module MedeekTrussPluginModuleLoader


	require 'sketchup.rb'
	require 'extensions.rb'
	require 'langhandler.rb'

	# Show the Ruby Console at startup so we can
	# see any programming errors we may make.
	# SKETCHUP_CONSOLE.show
	



	this_dir=File.dirname(__FILE__)
	# Fix for ruby 2.0
	if this_dir.respond_to?(;force_encoding)
		this_dir=this_dir.dup.force_encoding("UTF-8")
	end
	PATH=this_dir
	entries=Dir.entries(this_dir)
	ext=".rbs"


	# Add a toolbar item to launch our plugin.

	toolbar = UI;;Toolbar.new "Medeek Truss"
     	
     	cmd = UI;;Command.new("Draw Roof Truss") {

		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_TRUSS.rbs"))
		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;MedeekMethods.roof_truss_family_menu
     	}
    		cmd.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_2.png"
     		cmd.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_2.png"
     		cmd.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
    		cmd.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Truss"
    		cmd.menu_text = "Roof Truss"
     		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd
     		# toolbar.show

	cmd2 = UI;;Command.new("Draw Floor Truss") {

       		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_FLOOR_TRUSS.rbs"))
		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;FloorTruss;;MedeekMethods.floor_truss_family_menu
     	}
    		cmd2.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_3.png"
     		cmd2.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_3.png"
     		cmd2.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
    		cmd2.status_bar_text = "Draw Floor Truss"
    		cmd2.menu_text = "Floor Truss"
     		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd2
     		# toolbar.show

	cmd3 = UI;;Command.new("Draw Truss Set") {

       		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_TRUSS_SET.rbs"))
		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;TrussSet;;MedeekMethods.truss_set_family_menu
     	}
    		cmd3.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_4.png"
     		cmd3.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_4.png"
     		cmd3.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
    		cmd3.status_bar_text = "Draw Truss Set"
    		cmd3.menu_text = "Truss Set"
     		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd3
     		# toolbar.show

	cmd4 = UI;;Command.new("Draw Roof Rafters") {

       		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_RAFTERS.rbs"))
		Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions;;MedeekTrussPlugin;;RoofRafters;;MedeekMethods.roof_rafters_family_menu
     	}
    		cmd4.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_5.png"
     		cmd4.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_5.png"
     		cmd4.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
    		cmd4.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Rafters"
    		cmd4.menu_text = "Roof Rafters"
     		toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd4
     		toolbar.show


	# Add a menu item to launch our plugin.

	submenu = UI.menu("Plugins").add_submenu("Medeek Truss")
	submenu.add_item(cmd)
	submenu.add_item(cmd2)
	submenu.add_item(cmd3)
	submenu.add_item(cmd4)
	


	end
end

medeek

Now the largest file is only about 12,000 lines, a bit more manageable. If I spend some time cleaning it up and compressing redundant sections I can probably get it to half that amount.

medeek

Up until now I have maintained all of the code in one large file. However I keep adding more features so I need to split it out into multiple files to keep things manageable. My new load .rb file is attempting to use a method I found on another board but I'm getting a situation where the first click on the icon loads the plugin as it should however subsequent clicks on the menu or icon do nothing.

The problem is that after the menu item runs once it will not fire again.
Here is a snippet of the Medeek_Load.rb file :

module Medeek_Engineering_Inc_Extensions

	module MedeekTrussPluginModuleLoader

	# Show the Ruby Console at startup so we can
	# see any programming errors we may make.
	# SKETCHUP_CONSOLE.show


	this_dir=File.dirname(__FILE__)
	# Fix for ruby 2.0
	if this_dir.respond_to?(:force_encoding)
		this_dir=this_dir.dup.force_encoding("UTF-8")
	end
	PATH=this_dir
	entries=Dir.entries(this_dir)
	ext=".rbs"


	# Add a toolbar item to launch our plugin.

	toolbar = UI::Toolbar.new "Medeek Truss"

cmd = UI::Command.new("Draw Roof Truss") {

		Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_TRUSS.rbs"))
}
	cmd.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_2.png"
	cmd.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_2.png"
	cmd.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
	cmd.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Truss"
	cmd.menu_text = "Roof Truss"
	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd
	# toolbar.show

	cmd2 = UI::Command.new("Draw Floor Truss") {

	Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_FLOOR_TRUSS.rbs"))
}
	cmd2.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_3.png"
	cmd2.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_3.png"
	cmd2.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
	cmd2.status_bar_text = "Draw Floor Truss"
	cmd2.menu_text = "Floor Truss"
	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd2
	# toolbar.show

	cmd3 = UI::Command.new("Draw Truss Set") {

	Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_TRUSS_SET.rbs"))
}
	cmd3.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_4.png"
	cmd3.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_4.png"
	cmd3.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
	cmd3.status_bar_text = "Draw Truss Set"
	cmd3.menu_text = "Truss Set"
	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd3
	toolbar.show

	cmd4 = UI::Command.new("Draw Roof Rafters") {

	Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_RAFTERS.rbs"))
}
	cmd4.small_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon16_5.png"
	cmd4.large_icon = "images/mdkplg_tool_icon24_5.png"
	cmd4.tooltip = "Medeek Truss"
	cmd4.status_bar_text = "Draw Roof Rafters"
	cmd4.menu_text = "Roof Rafters"
	toolbar = toolbar.add_item cmd4
	toolbar.show


	# Add a menu item to launch our plugin.

	submenu = UI.menu("Plugins").add_submenu("Medeek Truss")
	submenu.add_item("Roof Truss") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_TRUSS.rbs")) }
	submenu.add_item("Floor Truss") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_FLOOR_TRUSS.rbs")) }
	submenu.add_item("Truss Set") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_TRUSS_SET.rbs")) }
	submenu.add_item("Roof Rafters") { Sketchup.load(File.join(this_dir,"MEDEEK_ROOF_RAFTERS.rbs")) }
	


	end
end

juju

@medeek said:

Now the largest file is only about 12,000 lines, a bit more manageable. If I spend some time cleaning it up and compressing redundant sections I can probably get it to half that amount.

Coding related queries will probably be addressed a lot faster if you post them in the developers section of the forum?

http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=180

medeek

Version 1.1.8 - 12.07.2015

Added Gable Rafter Roof.
Advanced options enabled for gable rafter roofs (sub-fascia, outlookers, sheathing, and rakeboards).
New submenu item and toolbar icon added for rafter roof type.
Plugin divided into multiple files for ease of management.

Structural outlookers for this type of a roof are still somewhat of a question. If they are horizontal it makes sense to notch the gable rafter but what if they are vertical?

medeek

Version 1.1.8 - 12.08.2015

Structural Outlookers enabled for gable rafter roofs (vertical & horizontal).

Notice in this case I have left the gable rafter in place but notched clean through it, so essentially it is blocking. However, I have also given the option for removing the gable rafter entirely. You will also notice that the gable rafter is the same depth as the outlookers, when you choose "CUSTOM" for the gable end rafter it allows one to specify the depth of this rafter.

When structural outlookers are used in a vertical orientation it is common practice to have them bear directly on the double top plate of the gable wall (balloon framed to roof). If there is some configuration that is standard in your neck of the woods that I am missing please let me know. I am currently providing three different configurations for the gable end rafters.

I think I am ready to now attack the gable rafter roof with glulam beam.