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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
      last edited by medeek

      I now have the basic system in place and working for the rafter roofs but if you look closely you can see there is still some refinement necessary. The example shown is two gable rafter roofs that are connected, with the trimming of the primary roof limited to only framing, cladding, gutters and soffit/fascia. Note that the insulation, gypsum, rafters and sheathing is not trimmed on the primary roof:

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      The tricky part with the refinement is how best to generate the cutting solid to subtract away the unwanted portions of the roof(s). Currently the way I am doing it is using the hidden roof primitive and the roof outline. I basically take the roof outline, extrude it vertically down and then union this solid with the roof primitive above. The resulting solid is then used to subtract against the geometry of any attached roofs. This seems to work reasonably well in most cases but as you can see with the soffit and fascia (and the gutters) there is some overlapping and other minor complications. The insulation also gets a little carved out in places but it is mostly acceptable.

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      Thoughts or suggestions?

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
        last edited by

        Version 3.4.7 - 05.23.2024

        • Enabled Roof Connections between complex roofs, rafter roofs, truss roofs and solid groups.
        • Added the "Configure Roof Connection" feature to the edit menu for complex, rafter and truss roofs.

        This is not a completely new feature however the configuration capability introduced (and the level of granularity achievable) is new and somewhat experimental at this point. I'm sure it will take a few updates and versions before all the issues are worked out and all the necessary refinement is achieved.

        Also note that that not all rafter roofs and not all truss types have this feature enabled yet. The following rafter roofs have been enabled:

        • Gable
        • Shed
        • Shed w/ Ledger

        The following truss types have been enabled:

        • Common
        • Monopitch
        • Scissor
        • Attic
        • Tail Bearing
        • Symmetric Cathedral
        • Cathedral
        • Parallel Chord

        More to come soon...

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • medeekM Offline
          medeek
          last edited by

          Version 3.4.8 - 05.25.2024

          • Enabled Roof Connections for the following additional truss types: tray, monocathedral, cambered, monoscissor and coffer.
          • Enabled Roof Connections for hip and dutch gable rafter roofs.
          • Enabled the "Edit Roof Assembly" function for dutch gable rafter roofs (imperial and metric units).
          • Enabled the following 3D roof cladding material for dutch gable rafter roofs: Metal.

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          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
          Medeek Engineering Inc
          design.medeek.com

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
            last edited by

            Tutorial 30: General Roof Connections (16:54 min.)

            Please email me any feedback or suggestions on this new feature.

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              Version 3.5.0 - 05.26.2024

              • Enabled "flat" ceiling gypsum for dutch gable rafter roofs.
              • Enabled "flat" ceiling gypsum for hip rafter roofs.
              • Fixed a bug with the global settings for rafter and truss roofs when the layer/tags option is turned off.

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              CRITICAL BUG FIX!
              Version 3.4.7 introduced a bug for both rafter and truss roofs when the layers/tags option is turned off. This release fixes that bug. I highly recommend that everyone download this latest update to correct this bug.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • medeekM Offline
                medeek
                last edited by

                [b]Version 3.5.2[/b] - 05.30.2024

                • Enabled ceiling insulation for floor trusses: Batt, Blown-in.
                • Enabled ceiling insulation for I-Joist and Lumber floors: Batt, Blown-in.
                • Fixed a bug with ceiling gypsum for inset floors (I-joist and Lumber).
                • Fixed a minor bug with joist hangers for common lumber sizes for inset floors.

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images5/truss_su853_800.jpg

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images5/truss_su852_800.jpg

                http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images5/truss_su851_800.jpg

                Honestly I didn't want to spend too much time updating this module since the new Floor plugin will supersede it, however since I do intend on retaining it within the Truss plugin for the foreseeable future, I thought it best to bring it up to speed with the other truss assemblies, and add the insulation option.

                Some of these updates seem small now and very incremental however they all take time and energy and they usually involve fairly tedious updates to the attribute library code and the HTML menus.

                The Truss plugin overall probably still has the most work that needs to be done of all the plugins. Compared to the Wall plugin this plugin has many partially finished tools and features and still certain trusses that are missing advanced options. The work will go on.

                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                Medeek Engineering Inc
                design.medeek.com

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                • gullfoG Offline
                  gullfo @medeek
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                  @medeek thanks! when do you expect to drop the new floor plugin? 🙂

                  Glenn

                  http://www.runnel.com

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by medeek

                    Version 3.5.3 - 06.09.2024

                    • Enabled a feature to selectively remove specific trusses from floor truss assemblies.
                    • Enabled a feature to selectively remove specific joists from I-joist and lumber floor assemblies.

                    https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/6/2/62cc073888d0cfecbea99e04bb25931977baa3cf.jpeg

                    https://global.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/optimized/3X/1/2/12ac1d4971166805986aecd30609d1c3e66215cc_2_690x453.jpeg

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      Version 3.5.4 - 06.15.2024

                      • Fixed a bug introduced in Version 3.4.7 for all rafter and truss roofs.

                      !! Critical Bug Fix !!
                      Note that this bug only reveals itself if you have the sub-fascia for the truss or rafter roof turned off. This bug applies to both truss and rafter roofs (gable).

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • medeekM Offline
                        medeek
                        last edited by

                        Version 3.5.5 - 06.22.2024

                        • Fixed a bug introduced in Version 3.4.7 for all rafter and truss roofs (when adv. roof options disabled).

                        !! Critical Bug Fix !!
                        This bug only reveals itself if you turn off the advanced roof options. The bug applies to truss and rafter roofs. I highly recommend updating to this latest version.

                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                        design.medeek.com

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          The new Rafter Roof menu should be a bit more visual and intuitive for selecting the appropriate roof type:

                          truss_su856_800.jpg

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • medeekM Offline
                            medeek
                            last edited by medeek

                            Version 3.5.6 - 07.03.2024

                            • Enabled a graphical user interface for Rafter Roof selection.
                            • Enabled a graphical user interface for Floor selection.
                            • Fixed a bug introduced in Version 3.5.3 for all I-joist, lumber and truss floors (when adv. floor options disabled).

                            truss_su857_800.jpg

                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                            design.medeek.com

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Version 3.5.7 - 07.05.2024

                              • Fixed a bug for all rafter roofs that have glulam beams.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Version 3.5.8 - 07.12.2024

                                • Enabled the "Edit Roof Assembly" function for gable rafter roofs with glulam beams (imperial and metric units).
                                • Enabled the "Edit Roof Assembly" function for I-joist rafter roofs with glulam beams (imperial and metric units).
                                • Enabled the "Edit Roof Assembly" function for I-joist rafter roofs with dual glulam beams (imperial and metric units).
                                • Added BCI, LPI, Red-I and PKI I-joists to the rafter roof module (glulam beam and dual glulam beam roofs).

                                truss_su859_800.jpg

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  Version 3.6.1 - 07.19.2024

                                  • Added Soffit Cut within Advanced Options for Complex Rafter Roofs.
                                  • Fixed a critical bug with the complex roof module.

                                  truss_su862_800.jpg

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Version 3.6.2 - 07.21.2024

                                    • Enabled "flat" ceiling gypsum for complex rafter roofs.
                                    • Fixed a minor bug with the hip-and-ridge for hip rafter roofs.

                                    truss_su863_800.jpg

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      [b]Version 3.6.3[/b] - 07.26.2024

                                      • Added a duplicate roof assembly check to the regen module for rafter, complex and truss roofs.

                                      The instructions for usage are the same as the recent update to the Wall plugin, see Wall Plugin Tutorial #51:

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by medeek

                                        Tutorial 31: Wrap Around Porch Roof (17:26 min.)

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          I've started working on adding in a scissor truss option into the module. Here are some quick and dirty (sorry I must have set my lunch down on my engineering pad earlier today) calcs for the heel joint of such a truss:

                                          scissor_timber_truss_800.jpg

                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • medeekM Offline
                                            medeek
                                            last edited by

                                            Version 3.6.4 - 03.13.2025

                                            • Enabled subtractive geometry for all dutch gable rafter roofs.

                                            truss_su876_800.jpg

                                            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                            Medeek Engineering Inc
                                            design.medeek.com

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