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    • medeekM Offline
      medeek
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      Skylights have not been on my official todo list but now they are.

      I've actually been tossing the Skylight idea around for a while now, how best to implement it within the various roof modules. I've got some ideas already but I haven't finalized it yet.

      Does anyone have any specifics or suggestions on the actual skylight models/components that I should use. Specific brands, reference drawings, that sort of thing.

      My thinking is to have some fairly generic skylight models that the user could chose from. The skylight module would then bring these components into the model and also cut the corresponding holes in the roof cladding and sheathing. I would also have a tool for editing and deleting a skylight. As far as moving the skylight on the roof plane, I would allow the user to simply click into the roof assembly and moving the skylight with the native tools as they see fit, this would be the simplest way of handling re-positioning.

      Again, I'm still tossing this idea around, trying to shake out the best system for implementing it, any feedback is appreciated.

      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
      Medeek Engineering Inc
      design.medeek.com

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      • medeekM Offline
        medeek
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        Velux has their official models in the warehouse but as usual there are too many details in these models, so I had to create my own low poly versions that are dimensionally accurate:

        https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/warehouse/v1.0/publiccontent/7a9c9925-45e3-4a46-8dba-bd543d1f1065

        https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/f56a0a28-e161-46ce-a051-ea081c9e2a74/Medeek-Skylights-Velux-Low-Poly

        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
        Medeek Engineering Inc
        design.medeek.com

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        • jujuJ Offline
          juju
          last edited by

          @medeek said:

          Velux has their official models in the warehouse but as usual there are too many details in these models, so I had to create my own low poly versions that are dimensionally accurate:

          https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/warehouse/v1.0/publiccontent/7a9c9925-45e3-4a46-8dba-bd543d1f1065

          https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model/f56a0a28-e161-46ce-a051-ea081c9e2a74/Medeek-Skylights-Velux-Low-Poly

          Different manufacturers have different sizes. A single well constructed DC, where you can enter the overall sizing on a dialogue, would probably be more useful and cause less bloating of the extension?

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          • medeekM Offline
            medeek
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            First look at the Skylights Toolbar:

            https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/9/c/9c74f6e602266b8ada8dc6c6c1b1b855034a2373.jpeg

            Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
            Medeek Engineering Inc
            design.medeek.com

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            • medeekM Offline
              medeek
              last edited by

              @juju said:

              Different manufacturers have different sizes. A single well constructed DC, where you can enter the overall sizing on a dialogue, would probably be more useful and cause less bloating of the extension?

              I've thought about this however there are quite a few different types of skylights (ie. surface mount, curb mount, round etc...) so it would seem to make more sense to model a few of the most common ones and then allow the user to drop their own custom skylights into the library folder. However, I do get what you are saying on this, I may need to give it some more thought.

              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
              Medeek Engineering Inc
              design.medeek.com

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              • jujuJ Offline
                juju
                last edited by

                @medeek said:

                I've thought about this however there are quite a few different types of skylights (ie. surface mount, curb mount, round etc...) so it would seem to make more sense to model a few of the most common ones and then allow the user to drop their own custom skylights into the library folder. However, I do get what you are saying on this, I may need to give it some more thought.

                Maybe touch base with Yoni at FlexTools, they seem to have that process licked!

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                • pbacotP Offline
                  pbacot
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                  Surface mount and curb mounted (typically on 2x6 framing over roof deck) are common. Velux is probably the standard though there are other types out there. In our area it's mostly Velux or something like that due to stringent energy requirements. You could have some of these, especially the ones meant to go into 24" o.c. framing. Then if you want branch out to some pyramidal or gable style skylights.

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                  • medeekM Offline
                    medeek
                    last edited by

                    Version 2.7.2 - 04.24.2020

                    • Added wall sheathing thickness and wall cladding thickness parameters to the advanced options for trusses.
                    • Enabled advanced options for tail bearing trusses.

                    http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su683_800.jpg

                    I still need to enable editing and labels for tail bearing trusses.

                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                    design.medeek.com

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                    • medeekM Offline
                      medeek
                      last edited by

                      Version 2.7.2b - 04.24.2020

                      • Enabled the "Edit Truss Assembly" function for all tail bearing trusses (imperial and metric units).
                      • Labels and callouts added to tail bearing trusses.

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su685_800.jpg

                      http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su684_800.jpg

                      This update also resolves a potential bug that could cause the plugin to go into a infinite loop if the birdsmouth cut exceeds the depth of the top chord of the truss. If you are using tail bearing trusses I highly recommend upgrading to this latest release.

                      The updated module is now properly creating the gypsum on the underside of the truss (three pieces).

                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                      design.medeek.com

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                      • D Offline
                        db11
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                        Do you have an option for strapping between the trusses and the gypsum?

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                        • medeekM Offline
                          medeek
                          last edited by

                          @db11 said:

                          Do you have an option for strapping between the trusses and the gypsum?

                          Yes, for some truss types it is enabled.

                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                          design.medeek.com

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                          • D Offline
                            db11
                            last edited by

                            OK, thanks.

                            One other quick question: when do you expect to have your gable wall module completed?

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                            • medeekM Offline
                              medeek
                              last edited by

                              Maybe I'll wrap that up next. I really want to get this skylight module up and running though in the next couple of days.

                              Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                              Medeek Engineering Inc
                              design.medeek.com

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                              • medeekM Offline
                                medeek
                                last edited by

                                Version 2.7.3 - 04.26.2020

                                • Added a Global Reset button in the General tab of the Global Settings.

                                https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/4/c/4cd164f87f2a986d3ef495bb9a5cfa6335fd24e5.jpeg

                                Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                Medeek Engineering Inc
                                design.medeek.com

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                                • medeekM Offline
                                  medeek
                                  last edited by

                                  Version 2.7.4 - 05.02.2020

                                  • Fixed a bug with the soffit and fascia module for all truss types.

                                  This bug fix is specifically for the boxed soffit for truss roofs. Previously if one did not enable the fascia but enabled the soffit then it would throw an error. There may be other similar bugs in this module or others so I am constantly testing combinations of various parameters to make sure no interdependencies have been overlooked.

                                  Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                  Medeek Engineering Inc
                                  design.medeek.com

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                                  • medeekM Offline
                                    medeek
                                    last edited by

                                    Version 2.7.5 - 05.05.2020

                                    • Enabled a toggle feature (Ctrl key) for the Trim tool so that the selection can be retained or removed.

                                    This small adjustment of the Trim tool is to bring it inline with the Trim 2 tool. This feature is per customer request.

                                    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                    Medeek Engineering Inc
                                    design.medeek.com

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                                    • medeekM Offline
                                      medeek
                                      last edited by

                                      First look at the skylight tool in action:

                                      https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/sketchup/original/3X/e/4/e492b52c1392aaf9038a71a8d1042273df9e1549.jpeg

                                      Note, that this image shows the skylights added to a generic roof. For the cutouts to work the roof geometry must be a valid solid group or component within an overall assembly group for the roof or building.

                                      Initially there are three skylights (sizes) to choose from however it is possible to add your own skylights into the library.

                                      The cut function can be toggled on/off in order to cut through the sheathing and cladding or in this case just a generic roof solid.

                                      At some point I would also like to add in a few VELUX Sun Tunnels.

                                      Now I just need to figure out how to heal the roof when a skylight is deleted or edited. For a Medeek roof that is fairly straight forward, just regen the roof, however for a generic solid things get a little more tricky.

                                      Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                      Medeek Engineering Inc
                                      design.medeek.com

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                                      • medeekM Offline
                                        medeek
                                        last edited by

                                        Version 2.7.6 - 05.11.2020

                                        • Added the Skylights toolbar.
                                        • Enabled skylights for all truss, rafter and complex roofs.
                                        • Enabled skylights for generic roofs.

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/skylight_su_menu_active.jpg

                                        http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su696_800.jpg

                                        I also added an additional tool for "regenerating" the skylights, this comes in handy after modifying the location of a skylight or if a Medeek roof gets regenerated and the holes in the sheathing and cladding need to be re-cut.

                                        There are few new global settings I still need to add to fully complete this new module but overall it seems to be working quite nicely.

                                        Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                        Medeek Engineering Inc
                                        design.medeek.com

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                                        • medeekM Offline
                                          medeek
                                          last edited by

                                          View model here:

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                                          Nathaniel P. Wilkerson PE
                                          Medeek Engineering Inc
                                          design.medeek.com

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                                          • jujuJ Offline
                                            juju
                                            last edited by

                                            @medeek said:

                                            Version 2.7.6 - 05.11.2020

                                            • Added the Skylights toolbar.
                                            • Enabled skylights for all truss, rafter and complex roofs.
                                            • Enabled skylights for generic roofs.

                                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/images/skylight_su_menu_active.jpg

                                            http://design.medeek.com/resources/trussplugin/images/truss_su696_800.jpg

                                            I also added an additional tool for "regenerating" the skylights, this comes in handy after modifying the location of a skylight or if a Medeek roof gets regenerated and the holes in the sheathing and cladding need to be re-cut.

                                            There are few new global settings I still need to add to fully complete this new module but overall it seems to be working quite nicely.

                                            thanks

                                            since we're expanding with more buttons, how's the work on reducing the amount of buttons on the taskbar coming along?

                                            Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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