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    Is there pluging for expanding/making face along line/edges?

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    • PixeroP Offline
      Pixero
      last edited by

      Not exactly the same but Thomthoms edgetools has a tool called: "Split faces into multiple pieces".
      With it you can select an edge and drag to the side and it will adopt to fit the length.
      (Maybe a bad explanation.) You better try it.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
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        @jql said:

        Tig's offset its almost there Dave, but it can't work on an edge alone...
        If you want to offset edges which have no associated faces, then how do 'we' know the plane onto which the offset new-edge is to be positioned ?
        I know it could be on the 'ground-plane' but that is not that useful...
        At least my tool offsets onto the related face.
        If the edges which are to be offset are coplanar why not create a face and use that for the offset edges, you can always delete the faces afterwards...
        πŸ˜•

        TIG

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        • pbacotP Offline
          pbacot
          last edited by

          I think the use is edges in a face. In particular, edges with two coplanar faces.

          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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          • JQLJ Offline
            JQL
            last edited by

            @tig said:

            @jql said:

            Tig's offset its almost there Dave, but it can't work on an edge alone...
            If you want to offset edges which have no associated faces, then how do 'we' know the plane onto which the offset new-edge is to be positioned ?
            I know it could be on the 'ground-plane' but that is not that useful...
            At least my tool offsets onto the related face.
            If the edges which are to be offset are coplanar why not create a face and use that for the offset edges, you can always delete the faces afterwards...
            πŸ˜•

            You mean it should work on an edge alone if it is associated with a face? I should doublecheck it!

            I use edgetools split edges most of the time for this sort of stuff (and other) as Pixero suggested. Is your offset capable of expanding edges to the end of the associated face too?

            How can I've missed those features!?

            I should triplecheck it!

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            • N Offline
              namelessone
              last edited by

              Wow, thanks for suggestions! I've tested them and unfortunately haven't found one that makes the desired result in simple, elegant manner πŸ˜„The best what I've found of all suggestions, was TIG's smart offset, but it had 2 problems. 1. Doesn't erase old edges. If you're creating a complex pattern of 'ribs', selecting edges may feel cumbersome. I guess plugins dedicated for selecting edges could help there, but it that would be a little overkill. 2. If you draw circles (for axis hinge, example), the old edge interferences with offseted circle, so you have to erase/smooth/weld to achieve correct result after pushpulling pattern 3. You have to put offset length number manually, requires experimenting/measuring to get right proportions, which sometimes isn't easy if scales of pattern isn't obvious (tldr, I'd love to see visual adjustment like in fredo6' joinpushpull plugin).

              Nonetheless, smart offset is super handy for robotic modelling, I've had a lot of cases where I had to offset weird shapes and I had to clean/correct the result of sketchup's default offset tool πŸ˜„ Not anymore!

              About how 'new' plugin could work there, I've prepared graphic how I imagine the plugin progress

              PS Does anyone know how this kind of structure is called? The flat metal surface strengthened by outer edges and 'ribs' inside? Check the image I've attached, you can see these structures in upper part of model

              mech.jpg
              expandedges.png

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                @unknownuser said:

                Is your offset capable of expanding edges to the end of the associated face too?

                Can you put an image of this ?

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                • JQLJ Offline
                  JQL
                  last edited by

                  @pilou said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Is your offset capable of expanding edges to the end of the associated face too?

                  Can you put an image of this ?

                  Edgetools split face...

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    This sort of things ?

                    edgetool.gif

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                    • JQLJ Offline
                      JQL
                      last edited by

                      That sort of things. Thanks Pilou, my gif making abilities were ruined with this 4k monitor.

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                      • pbacotP Offline
                        pbacot
                        last edited by

                        Edge tools split face is great but what OP is asking for is double offsets and removal of the original edges, also for working on curves which split face can't help with much. The second part--removal of original edge--is not too slow manually.

                        This action seems so common. In making facades, doors, windows cabinets, paneling etc. where all is needed is a "reveal" or joint or, in this case a ridge. So easy to lay out the defining edges, next step is to give those edges "width" for 3d use.

                        I'd leave out the perimeter action as that seems a different action.

                        The last example can be achieved by smart offset. I think it is more difficult to just do the interior edges.

                        So for now smart offset for multiple edges and split faces for single edges...

                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                        • hdpvH Offline
                          hdpv
                          last edited by

                          Hello Namelessone!
                          Try my plugin S4u Frame.
                          http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=s4u_frame

                          Suforyou
                          http://www.sketchupforyou.com

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                          • cottyC Offline
                            cotty
                            last edited by

                            @Huynh: very nice plugin! Works great for this example.

                            my SketchUp gallery

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                            • cottyC Offline
                              cotty
                              last edited by

                              Quick example...

                              frame_oneclick.jpg

                              my SketchUp gallery

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                French version πŸ˜‰
                                Click image for Animation! πŸ€“

                                s4u_frame.zip


                                Su_cadre.gif

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  PS Seems Triangulated frames must be refined! πŸ˜‰

                                  Triangle.jpg

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                                  • D Offline
                                    dtrarch
                                    last edited by

                                    Hi All
                                    s4u Frame and s4u Slice are just must have plugins.
                                    Perfect for this use and ONE click to go. πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ˜„ πŸ˜„

                                    Thanks Vi

                                    dtr

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                                    • hdpvH Offline
                                      hdpv
                                      last edited by

                                      Thank you!
                                      @Pilou: convert lines to curve ,It'll work correct.

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Convert line to curves

                                        Very cool trick! πŸ‘ 😎 β˜€

                                        Triangle2.jpg

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                                        • cottyC Offline
                                          cotty
                                          last edited by

                                          Can you explain the "trick" a bit more, please?

                                          frameedge.jpg

                                          my SketchUp gallery

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            The trick! πŸ˜‰
                                            And all will work fine! 😎
                                            convert.gif


                                            fine.jpg

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