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    • BoxB Offline
      Box
      last edited by

      Yep, a very nice bit of modelling there. Well done.

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      • TeigT Offline
        Teig
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        The strengthening of the throat-base was giving me some grief until I had a eureka moment and put the channels for the air vents underneath. Took about 20 minutes to draw, a far cry from a month ago when it took me 8 hours to get an outline πŸ˜„

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        • TeigT Offline
          Teig
          last edited by

          I wonder what's wrong now... It's a long night on shift and started drawing an elbow, it's an exercise really with the general (virtual) notion being to mount the bellmouth up out of the way. So I started fiddling and came up with this:

          Elbow v1.jpg

          It gave me a bit of bother trying to draw the support flanges, the result being it's not solid. I'm being told I'll need to manually remove faults. That's my latest problem, I've duplicated and scaled up trying to use the 'Dave R' technique but it doesn't work, SolidSolver unable to fix it. Anyone for some guidance on this one?

          Elbow.skp

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
            last edited by

            If you intersect the top face of the flange with the collar you can remove the face you can see in the tube. Then a bit of cleanup of some stray lines and it is a solid.
            I can give it to you fixed if you want it.

            I just noticed it is a group, so edits on the big one won't flow to the small one.

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            • TeigT Offline
              Teig
              last edited by

              Oh fiddle! I should have done it as a component.... 😑 I'll try and figure out what you mean Box, I may be back soon... πŸ˜„

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              • TeigT Offline
                Teig
                last edited by

                Strewth! How do you intersect them? There's a trio of choices, with face, with model and with selection, none seem to work.

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                • TeigT Offline
                  Teig
                  last edited by

                  @box said:

                  I can give it to you fixed if you want it.

                  Yes please Box! My grey matter is frazzled πŸ˜„

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                  • BoxB Offline
                    Box
                    last edited by

                    Here, I'll give you this gif, and see how you go.
                    But remember to make it a component this time.

                    Edit:if you are wondering what the first context menu was, it was just the intersect face one, but it was off screen so a moved down and did it again to get it where you could see it.


                    With selection.gif

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                    • TeigT Offline
                      Teig
                      last edited by

                      And I thank you once again Box, I did what you said, couldn't see what you could see to understand why it worked bu the result is solid! πŸ˜„

                      Elbow.skp

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                      • BoxB Offline
                        Box
                        last edited by

                        On your original when you look into the pipe you see a blue face, this it the back side of the top face of the flange, so by intersecting that face you can remove the part blocking your airflow, and then removing the other edge/ring gets rid of an internal face.


                        Inner Face.gif

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                        • TeigT Offline
                          Teig
                          last edited by

                          I knew immediately I'd have internal face when I pulled 'backwards' didn't know to get rid though. I do now πŸ˜„ Onwards and upwards, time of home soon for some sleepsssss. Once again, TVM Box.

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                          • TeigT Offline
                            Teig
                            last edited by

                            Been playing again tonight and seem to have nailed it πŸ˜„

                            Elbow5star.jpg

                            Elbow.skp

                            Now to get rid of the five star mount and think about how to draw a snap-on clip type system. I've drawn loads of bellmouths of various sizes; it'd be really cool to be able to clip-on clip-off different ones and be able to compare the difference in the torque/power response immediately πŸ€“

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                            • D Offline
                              d12dozr
                              last edited by

                              Superb, Teig! It's neat to watch your progression from the beginning of the thread to now πŸ‘

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                              • BoxB Offline
                                Box
                                last edited by

                                Indeed is is good to see.
                                Have you thought about a keyhole type slide fitting.
                                Slide it on and a simple quick release split pin to lock it.

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                                • TeigT Offline
                                  Teig
                                  last edited by

                                  Or R-pins for more simplicity? Yes, good idea. I've been looking around at plastic snap-clips for ideas but that might be simpler.

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                                    Teig
                                    last edited by

                                    @d12dozr said:

                                    Superb, Teig! It's neat to watch your progression from the beginning of the thread to now πŸ‘

                                    I did that myself at the weekend, looked back to the start of the thread that is, my comical first-attempts put a smile on my face πŸ˜„

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                                    • TeigT Offline
                                      Teig
                                      last edited by

                                      @box said:

                                      Have you thought about a keyhole type slide fitting.
                                      Slide it on and a simple quick release split pin to lock it.

                                      I'm not sure what you had in mind Box, but I've knocked this together as a concept, can anyone see why it wouldn't work?

                                      Split pin Catch.jpg

                                      Split pin Catch.skp

                                      I know the split pin isn't long enough but I can't figure out how to stretch it and it's only for demo.

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                                      • TeigT Offline
                                        Teig
                                        last edited by

                                        An hour later and I've managed to attach the clips to my model:

                                        Elbow for Catch System.jpg

                                        Solid Inspector2 is reporting them as solid, SolidSolver is saying I need to select one or other. How would I go about combining the three components into one solid?

                                        Elbow for Catch System.skp

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Assuming the main part is a solid [group it and see its Entity Info...] you'll need to 'merge' the 'clips'
                                          Note:
                                          The 'clip' on the right is not in the same relationship to the pipe as the left 'clip'.
                                          I assume it should be...
                                          Also the back edge of the clips intersect oddly with the pipe-part and their backside radius does not match the pipe's either [see image] - it will mean far more tweaking later on...
                                          Fix those and then with the parts in the same context use 'intersect'.
                                          You should then be able to use SolidInspector/SolidSolver OR add a SectionPlane to look inside and erase the unwanted faces/edges.


                                          Capture.PNG

                                          TIG

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                                          • D Offline
                                            d12dozr
                                            last edited by

                                            Even easier than using Intersect with Model would be to make the elbow a solid group, the select all 3 groups, Right Click > Outer Shell to combine them into a solid group.

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