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    • hellnbakH Offline
      hellnbak
      last edited by

      Probably a dumb question, but have you tried all the options here?


      2014-11-23_163846.png

      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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      • M Offline
        mrossk
        last edited by

        I'm not familiar with that menu. Where is it?

        https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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        • Rich O BrienR Online
          Rich O Brien Moderator
          last edited by

          @helnbak

          those are options related to Mystic Thumbs and not part of the Windows OS

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          • hellnbakH Offline
            hellnbak
            last edited by

            Well, just click on the File option, and it should list Thumbnail, click on it
            a.png

            2014-11-23_163846.png

            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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            • hellnbakH Offline
              hellnbak
              last edited by

              @rich o brien said:

              @helnbak

              those are options related to Mystic Thumbs and not part of the Windows OS

              Yeah, I knew it was Mystic Thumbs, just thought I would throw it out there FWIW

              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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              • M Offline
                mrossk
                last edited by

                oh, gotcha. I have regular non-mystic thumbs. Boring, but they've served me well

                https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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                • M Offline
                  mrossk
                  last edited by

                  Here's another possible clue. If in the file menu, I click "show all files" instead of just "skp" files, the few backup files ("skB),show their thumbnails. So the SKB files have thumbnails, but the regular SKP do not. That seems weird.

                  https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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                  • M Offline
                    mrossk
                    last edited by

                    One more thing- I've noticed that the same issue applies to PDF files on my computer. I used to see thumbnails of those files, now I just see a big "PDF" logo. I imagine this must be some Windows or Explorer setting. Anyone familiar with the behind-the-scenes workings to give me a heads up?

                    https://www.mkaplanfinefurniture.com/

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                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                      Krisidious
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                      What exact OS are you on? What bit? I take it 64bit... Is it an upgrade or a full install. If you're having issues with seeing thumbnails on multiple programs I would say it's not SU related. Have you tried running windows installer again and giving windows a fresh start on system files?

                      When is the last time you saw thumbnails? was it recently? what have you installed in the meantime?

                      http://windows.microsoft.com/es-es/windows-vista/turn-back-time-on-your-pc-undo-system-changes-with-system-restore

                      By: Kristoff Rand
                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                      • TIGT Online
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                        On a 64bit PC with SketchUp v2015 Pro the Registry entry:
                        HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.skp\ShellEx\{BB2E617C-0920-11d1-9A0B-00C04FC2D6C1}
                        Should have the Default value of:
                        {A86C8053-587B-4dfb-A5E2-54E9803E4463}
                        Which in turn is a reference to SketchUp's ThumbsUp.dll [the one in the Layout folder, NOT the SketchUp folder!]...
                        You can copy that 'value' in full from the .skb entry !
                        I found on mine it was set incorrectly.
                        I changed it as set uout above and now the thumbnails appear for SKP files...
                        Edit the Registry with Run > regedit at your own risk !!!

                        TIG

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                        • KrisidiousK Offline
                          Krisidious
                          last edited by

                          Tig, yours was set incorrectly during factory install? Or it just happened somehow?

                          By: Kristoff Rand
                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                          • TIGT Online
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @krisidious said:

                            Tig, yours was set incorrectly during factory install? Or it just happened somehow?
                            It was just wrong 'somehow'.
                            I did NOT initially get any thumbnails in v2015 64bit, but that Registry tweak fixed it.
                            Obviously, I had not previously been getting thumbnails in 32bit v2014 on the 64 bit PC as they are not compatible...
                            If I recall that Registry entry was either not set up with any 'value', or perhaps it was referring to a wrong 'value' - I can't recall - anyway, it now works ! πŸ˜„
                            It's odd that the ThumbsUp.dll path that is referred to in the convolutions of the Registry is to the one in the Layout folder rather than then one in the SketchUp folder - but I see it's the same in v2014 too... πŸ˜•
                            What values do you get for that Registry entry?
                            I think they are common across 64bt PCs...

                            TIG

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                            • KrisidiousK Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by

                              But, I bet you were Beta huh? you could have had an old install of 2015 put something funky in.

                              I'll check mine.

                              Currently, I have large thumbs for any newly saved files, but all small thumbs for older files. Need a batch program to update all the thumbs.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • TIGT Online
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                                2015M1 is out in the download area - a poor-do by Trimble who have failed to announce it for three days !
                                Does your SketchUp.ShellExtension point to the logical ThumbsUp.dll or the Layout one ?
                                Under CLSID ?

                                TIG

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
                                  last edited by

                                  logical ThumbsUp.dll it's value is {A86C8053-587B-4DFB-A5E2-54E9803E4463}

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                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  • TIGT Online
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                                    last edited by

                                    That is the "illogical" dll !
                                    If you do a find based on that string, it takes you to a Layout path !
                                    There are two of these dll files supplied with a SketchUp installion, one in the Layout folder and another in the SketchUp folder.
                                    One might have thought that the SketchUp folder one would be referred to regarding SketchUp's SKP thumbnail display, and not the Layout one - although they do appear to be identical !
                                    This odd path is set up like this in v2015 and v2014 !
                                    The string '\ThumbsUp.dll' only ever appears in conjunction with a 'Layout' path, AND it is linked back to SKP etc...
                                    It never appears connected to SketchUp directly !

                                    TIG

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                                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                                      Krisidious
                                      last edited by

                                      Mine is set correctly and I got it the day it was released. I don't recall any updates as of yet. I'm on Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.

                                      regedit-skp thumb ref.JPG

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                      • KrisidiousK Offline
                                        Krisidious
                                        last edited by

                                        Sorry Tig... I messed up that screenshot somehow. look again. I fixed it.

                                        CLSID has a default value of {A86C8053-587B-4DFB-A5E2-54E9803E4463}

                                        be it logical or not I have no idea. I do have thumbnails in Explorer, SU Import and SU Open/Saveas though.

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        • TIGT Online
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                                          last edited by

                                          That {A86C8053-587B-4DFB-A5E2-54E9803E4463} refers to the ../Layout/ThumbsUp.dll, which seems illogical as it's setting up a SketchUp SKP thumbnail AND there is a ../SketchUp/ThumbsUp.dll
                                          It works but it makes no sense !

                                          TIG

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                                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                                            Krisidious
                                            last edited by

                                            Forgive me if I'm wrong, but Layout in 64 bit had thumbnails in 2014 and 2013 didn't it? i can't check it now that 2015 is in. Could they have routed them to fix the issue? I downloaded the update, I'll check it again after I install.

                                            By: Kristoff Rand
                                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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