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    • alexjoA Offline
      alexjo
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      http://www.alexhogrefe.com/blog/2013/7/21/theater-update-2.html

      In this tutorial.

      This is the 1st floor plan which he extruded in Sketchup using the extrusion plugin, he exported a dwg file and extruded the walls on Sketchup.

      http://www.alexhogrefe.com/storage/thumbnails/3906413-23151306-thumbnail.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1374417722148

      The, he exported it to kerkythea to render the 1st floor. but HOW was he capable to rendering it in perfect top view with no prospective, even though Kerkythea does not deal with scenes that are not in perspective (I just tried to export the scene as 2d but it was not readable)

      http://www.alexhogrefe.com/storage/thumbnails/3906413-23151300-thumbnail.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1374417764946

      I am DYING to know. I'd appreciate any help.

      Thanks tons.

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      • massimoM Offline
        massimo Moderator
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        What's the problem you have in rendering perfect zenithal views in KT? πŸ˜„
        zenithal.jpg

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        • alexjoA Offline
          alexjo
          last edited by

          Yes, I am a lowkey idiot. KT had the parallel right in front of me, but I still had to export in 3d obviously.

          But still.............

          His render looks clear white,

          mine ended up looking like this :

          http://i.minus.com/jbh8DEnw3YFVVa.jpg

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          • massimoM Offline
            massimo Moderator
            last edited by

            Your render is not perfectly zenithal. See the picture below for correct settings.
            Cattura.JPG
            For clear white it's not a problem. You can do it in post pro or directly in KT.
            1- Go to settings-->sun and sky
            2- If you already have a sun, put a white color for it. Click on "skip"
            Cattura_01.JPG
            3- Choose "sky color" in the "sky type" menu-->click on the box below and choose a white color for the sky.
            Cattura_02.JPG
            4- You can also adjust the sun radius (here I've used "15") and check "soft shadows". This is a raw KT's output.
            white.jpg
            Of course you can also use a proper HDRI if you want different effects.

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            • alexjoA Offline
              alexjo
              last edited by

              Thanks tons, mate. Very appreciated.

              However, I'd like to point out that I have done every step you mentioned except manipulating the sun's radius. In the render above, I have indeed chosen the color white, etc.

              I have noticed that the sun's location changed the color scheme a big deal, and also if my observation is on point -- the attenuation has a big effect on the intensity of shadows ?

              Anw, I think I'm improving already

              http://i.minus.com/j3hOyeatP7hyc.jpg

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              • alexjoA Offline
                alexjo
                last edited by

                Oh god, nvm. Yours still looks better and more professional.

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                • massimoM Offline
                  massimo Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  However, I'd like to point out that I have done every step you mentioned except manipulating the sun's radius. In the render above, I have indeed chosen the color white, etc.

                  You've also set a white color for the sun and for the materials? Otherwise I don't understand where that yellow comes from.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  have noticed that the sun's location changed the color scheme a big deal

                  Forgot to say that for the image above I've used a clay preset. Anyway if you use a white color for both sun and sky the color scheme should not change I guess.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  the attenuation has a big effect on the intensity of shadows ?

                  Quite correct. It depends a lot on the size of the scene, the models I mean. Just play with sun's radius until you're satisfied with the result.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Yours still looks better and more professional.

                  Really? I spent more or less 2 min for the set-up and the render. πŸ˜‰

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                  • massimoM Offline
                    massimo Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Since I think that the additional "clay" render presets are missed in the KT forum, I post them here. Unzip the folder and put the files in the "render settings" folder.


                    KT_clay_presets.zip

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                    • alexjoA Offline
                      alexjo
                      last edited by

                      Hmm wait, set a white color to the sun or to the sky ? there's something other than this ?

                      http://i.minus.com/j87STvf8l2Yoz.jpg

                      What's a Clay preset ? Sorry, but I literally got introduced to this surprisingly powerful little sneaky took today.

                      Still yellow-ish huh ?

                      http://i2.minus.com/jtUZlF4l2ZyUE.jpg

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                      • massimoM Offline
                        massimo Moderator
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Hmm wait, set a white color to the sun or to the sky ?

                        Both.

                        @unknownuser said:

                        there's something other than this ?

                        That's the sky color. To change the sun's color right click on the sun and follow the pictures below.
                        Cattura.JPG
                        Cattura_01.JPG

                        @unknownuser said:

                        What's a Clay preset ?

                        That will automatically assign a white/grey material to all your models.
                        Click on the "start render button" and choose a clay preset.
                        Cattura_02.JPG

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                        • alexjoA Offline
                          alexjo
                          last edited by

                          Yeah, I checked the sun's color before I saw your post and it was white by default.

                          It is definitely the preset then. Thanks tons, I think it's working now. Is this decent ?

                          http://i.minus.com/jI2M7hv6aSIpN.jpg

                          & I have one little issue now. I do not like how unrealistic the shadows look, no matter how much I move the model around the sun. Do you change the location/time like 3dsMax Mental Ray, or do you just keep testing different radius values ?

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                          • massimoM Offline
                            massimo Moderator
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I think it's working now. Is this decent ?

                            πŸ‘

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I do not like how unrealistic the shadows look, no matter how much I move the model around the sun

                            If with "unrealistic" you mean "hard" then yes, tick "soft shadow" in the scene settings panel and play with sun's radius and multiplier.

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                            • massimoM Offline
                              massimo Moderator
                              last edited by

                              If you want to change the sun's position then..
                              Cattura.JPG

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                              • alexjoA Offline
                                alexjo
                                last edited by

                                Ugh, thanks. That last tip was needed.

                                Btw, the 4 Clay presets differ in quality and render time, right ?

                                have you changed the gamma correction for your render sample ?

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                                • massimoM Offline
                                  massimo Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Btw, the 4 Clay presets differ in quality and render time, right ?

                                  Right.

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  have you changed the gamma correction for your render sample ?

                                  No. I didn't change anything.

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                                  • alexjoA Offline
                                    alexjo
                                    last edited by

                                    Hmm, best so far.

                                    http://i5.minus.com/jX0c9NPKRbu0D.jpg

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                                    • massimoM Offline
                                      massimo Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Well if you want to try to match the look of the pic you posted in your first post you have to use softer shadows I guess.

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                                      • alexjoA Offline
                                        alexjo
                                        last edited by

                                        Oh oh, did my post get deleted lol

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                                        • massimoM Offline
                                          massimo Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          No post was deleted. You sent a PM to me. πŸ˜‰
                                          Here is what I replied: have you tried what I suggested? Tick "soft shadow" and increase the sun's radius?

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                                          • alexjoA Offline
                                            alexjo
                                            last edited by

                                            Lmao, that was confusing.My bad.

                                            I actually did that right off the bat. But saw no difference. The radius changes the position of the sun, and it takes me a couple of minutes to get it back where i want it to be.

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