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      willanie
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      Hi alexandercheyns,

      Visualizer does not support the "styles" features of Sketchup. It always put a procedural sky in the background. I assume you are saving the image in png format. Pardon me if this is obvious but the alpha channel of that image file allows you to layer the foreground on to another background. You do need some compositing software like Photoshop or Gimp to specify the new background. Perhaps you could share an example rendered image.

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        pilou
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        @unknownuser said:

        You do need some compositing software like Photoshop or Gimp to specify the new background

        Why not put a "false background" image in Sketchup it self ? πŸ˜‰

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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          willanie
          last edited by

          Hi pilou,

          Good thought but AFIK this feature doesn't exist in Visualizer.

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            pilou
            last edited by

            Something like this or anything else! (cylindric, hemispheric etc... πŸ˜‰
            And input project any image on this sort of surface as background!

            http://wiki.blender.org/uploads/2/2a/6.3._03.png

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              willanie
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              Hi Pilou,

              I didn't understand what you meant by "false background". In fact your "psyche" geometry would produce a nice limbo background with a complex shadow casting of the foreground object.

              alexandercheyns,

              Just to help clarify what you are asking about, can you post a link to the Visualizer tutorial you referred to. I assume it has something to do with the alpha channel and png files.

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                pilou
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                Maybe i don't understant the first original problem! πŸ˜„
                I don't ever understand why there is not always an image with a problem asked! πŸ˜„

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  Have you an image of what is wanted ?

                  Does this resolve the problem?
                  If i put an image on this face, no shadows on it! πŸ˜„

                  no_shadow_here.jpg

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                    willanie
                    last edited by

                    Hi pilou,

                    Im pretty sure the original request was related to layering with an alpha channel but until the person chimes back it remains a mystery.

                    Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?

                    Also the cast shadow toggle is an interesting hidden gem in Visualizer which can be used to emit light from geometry in a limited fashion. It can take quite a while to render a noise free image. Here is a test image.


                    neon effect receive shadow off

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                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?

                      Sketchup + Visualizer + Key "PrintScreen"
                      and copy the screen inside my old PhotoImpact 1992-2000!!!
                      (the program that I have only bought)for the arrows and text or any retouch!
                      This last one was terrific : we can even make web site with it! πŸ’š
                      The incredible thing is that quasi all functions are working today! 😎
                      Some times i add effects with the free Fotor! πŸ˜„
                      All that take less 5 minutes! πŸ˜„

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        masterpaul
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                        @willanie said:

                        Hi pilou,

                        Im pretty sure the original request was related to layering with an alpha channel but until the person chimes back it remains a mystery.

                        Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?

                        Also the cast shadow toggle is an interesting hidden gem in Visualizer which can be used to emit light from geometry in a limited fashion. It can take quite a while to render a noise free image. Here is a test image.

                        Woah I never knew that.

                        Ok I tested it out. Deselecting "Cast shadow" does nothing. However if you deselect "Receive Shadows" then that component starts to emit light.

                        http://i.imgur.com/6xF91Lz.png

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                          willanie
                          last edited by

                          oops sorry about that I meant receive shadow ... which lets the sun and sky light effect the object regardless of any other geometry in the scene
                          the sun/sky time of day and orientation relative to the sun still effects the brightness which makes it not quite a pure emmisive surface but still kind of neat

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                            pbacot
                            last edited by

                            I think Pilou means a sort of billboard backdrop. His example seems to also show lighting objects which, of course don't apply. Far easier to add the background image in PS or GIMP, because in SU you are dependent on the sun lighting the backdrop and the limits of image resolution.

                            Attached is an example using Oli's tree line texture backdrop, as a billboard object in SketchUp.


                            VIZ_0095.png

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                              pbacot
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                              glowing personality

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                youemailme
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                                @willanie said:

                                Hi beacharch

                                This approach assumes you have already installed Sketchup2015 or Sketchup2014 and Visualizer.

                                After installing Sketchup2016
                                dont start Sketchup2016 yet and go to folder
                                /Library/Application Support/

                                If there isn't one already create this folder hierarchy(exactly matching upper and lowercase)
                                /Library/Application Support/Sketchup 2016/Sketchup/Plugins

                                from /Library/Application Support/Sketchup 2015/Sketchup/Plugins
                                copy these two items(one is a folder the other is a ruby file)
                                ImaginationVisualizer
                                ImaginationVisualizer.rb
                                paste them into
                                /Library/Application Support/Sketchup 2016/Sketchup/Plugins

                                Now launch Sketchup2016 you should see Visualizer under the Extensions pull-down.
                                If Visualizer doesn't show up in the Extensions pull-down
                                click on
                                Sketchup->Preferences->Extensions
                                you should see Visualizer with an unchecked toggle box ... check that toggle on
                                close the preferences window

                                and Bob's your uncle Visualizer running in Sketchup2016
                                (you may have to relaunch Sketchup)

                                OK, I'm confused! I finally found the ImaginationVisualizer folder and .rb file, though they were in a folder "plugins" in C:. I can't for the life of me figure out what you're referring to by the folder "/Library/Application Support". Where is this to be found? I tried pasting the above folder and .rb into the plugins folder in SU 2016, but when I start SU, I get the following load error:


                                Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer/iv_localization
                                Could not find included file 'ImaginationVisualizer/iv_localization'
                                Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer.rb
                                Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method TRANSLATE' for ImgTecVis:Module> C:/Users/SHD/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/ImaginationVisualizer.rb:20:in module:ImgTecVis'
                                C:/Users/SHD/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/ImaginationVisualizer.rb:14:in `<top (required)>'
                                Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer/iv_initialize
                                Could not find included file 'ImaginationVisualizer/iv_initialize'
                                Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer/iv_menus
                                Could not find included file 'ImaginationVisualizer/iv_menus'


                                What am I doing wrong?

                                Thanks

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                                  willanie
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi youemailme,

                                  Take a look at this post on the sketchup forums
                                  user john_drivenupthewall has provided a way to do it from the sketchup ruby console.

                                  favicon

                                  (forums.sketchup.com)

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                                    driven
                                    last edited by

                                    That's a mac way, I'd have to modify it for PC's and to do that I'd need to add some ruby...

                                    john

                                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                      willanie
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes you are right john, unfortunately I read youemailme's post too quickly and thought they were installing on a Mac not windows PC platform.

                                      youemailme your "quoted" section is referring to installing on a Mac.
                                      Please read pilou's post that explains how to do it on Windows
                                      here
                                      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=80%26amp;t=57758%26amp;start=60#p581313

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                                        youemailme
                                        last edited by

                                        @willanie said:

                                        Yes you are right john, unfortunately I read youemailme's post too quickly and thought they were installing on a Mac not windows PC platform.

                                        youemailme your "quoted" section is referring to installing on a Mac.
                                        Please read pilou's post that explains how to do it on Windows
                                        here
                                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=80%26amp;t=57758%26amp;start=60#p581313

                                        Thanks John & willanie. My bad for not indicating I'm on PC, and got your post just in time as I was just about to start figuring out how to cut and paste the ruby stuff. Now I understand why I couldn't make sense of "library" etc.

                                        I originally started with Pilou's directions, and couldn't make a lot of sense of it since his computer is French & I had to figure out that "program data" is not "program files", but "app data" on mine.

                                        It also mystified me why I couldn't find either the visualizer folder or file within SU 2015, anywhere in either program files or app data. FINALLY, I found them not in users>(my computer), but in ALL USERS, where there's a sketchup folder as well. Having found them, I hoped it would be as simple as copying and pasting it into the same location in 2016. No luck. Went through the steps again and realized 2016 didn't have a folder named plugins, so created that and moved the visualizer stuff. Now Pilou's comment about needing to create a plugins folder made sense. Thought for sure that would work, but now I get a load error message again:


                                        Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer/iv_localization
                                        Could not find included file 'ImaginationVisualizer/iv_localization'
                                        Error Loading File ImaginationVisualizer.rb
                                        Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method TRANSLATE' for ImgTecVis:Module> C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/ImaginationVisualizer.rb:20:in module:ImgTecVis'
                                        C:/ProgramData/SketchUp/SketchUp 2016/SketchUp/Plugins/ImaginationVisualizer.rb:14:in `<top (required)>'


                                        However, now I find visualizer in window>preferences>extensions, and it's checked. But it still doesn't show under extensions in SU. Any ideas?

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                                          youemailme
                                          last edited by

                                          Success! For some reason, when I copied and pasted the ImaginationVisualizer folder and .rb, the pasted folder didn't contain all the files and folders in the origin location. So I copied the contents of the origin folder and pasted them into the destination folder, which included the iv_localization file that the load error kept citing. Well, there went THIS day! Thanks again for your help.....

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                                            ZahariStoyanov
                                            last edited by

                                            @willanie said:

                                            Hi pilou,

                                            Im pretty sure the original request was related to layering with an alpha channel but until the person chimes back it remains a mystery.

                                            Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?

                                            Also the cast shadow toggle is an interesting hidden gem in Visualizer which can be used to emit light from geometry in a limited fashion. It can take quite a while to render a noise free image. Here is a test image.

                                            Dude, I've been wondering how to create light sources for quite a while now πŸ˜„ Thanks for the tip!

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