Visualizer for SketchUp
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Hi Pilou & everybody
I am just in the process of upgrading from SU2015 to SU2016 and stumbled across your work around for migrating the now unsupported Visualizer over. Visualizer is working fine on (Win7) SU2015 however I cannot find the folder you have mentioned ImaginationVisualizer nor the ruby file ImaginationVisualizer.rb in my SU2015 file structure.
There is nothing other than a folder called 1.3.13 which I believe was the last and final Version of Visualizer. It is located (Sketchup2015 > Plugins > 1.3.13) and has some further sub folders (Bin/Doc/System)that each have some Visualizer files in them, but no visualizer.rb file to be found anywhere on the system...yet Visualizer works a charm on my SU2015. Tried to copy the 1.3.13 folder into the SU2016 setup but no luck... Is this a Windows 7 thing?
Any help to get it to work appreciated
@pilou said:
For SU 2016 (Visualizer yet installed on SU 2015)
Installation don't work directly !
(I suppose that is working directly if Visualizer don't yet installed!)A little trick! (For Windows 8.1 - I don't know Mac's world! )
Make this new folder Plugins (don't existing because 2016 is new and empty)
and copy past from the ProgramData / SU 2015:
Folder ImaginationVisualizer and file ImaginationVisualizer.rb
That's all!
You must have that!
[attachment=1:uwdo1rw4]<!-- ia1 -->Viz2016.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:uwdo1rw4]
Works like a charm!
And works in duplication 2015 2016 !
[attachment=0:uwdo1rw4]<!-- ia0 -->viz2.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:uwdo1rw4] -
@David
Sorry I can't say more than my previous image! (I am on Windoows 8.1)
You have not this ProgramData folder? (Different than user/Appdata/ folder)
and this Plugins folder is also different than the normal Plugins folder!!!
Have you enable Show hidden files in your WIndows system ? -
Thanks Pilou, I double checked that hidden files are shown. Searched the whole system. I am having the same issue with one other program plugin called LumenRT. Can't put my finger on it...
Thanks anyway
Cheers
David
@pilou said:
@David
Sorry I can't say more than my previous image! (I am on Windoows 8.1)
You have not this ProgramData folder? (Different than user/Appdata/ folder)
and this Plugins folder is also different than the normal Plugins folder!!!
Have you enable Show hidden files in your WIndows system ? -
And the search engine of Windows refind nothing on the 2015 where you have vizualizer working?
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you could use 'Ruby Console' in SU v15 to find the path...
Sketchup.find_support_file('ImaginationVisualizer', 'Plugins')john
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Hi Pilou & driven
I have found the files now... they were under a different path in the user / roaming section
I never really worked out why there are to storage paths for Sketchup extensions i.e. roaming or within Sketchup... hence my inconsistency with installing every extension in the same place.
Thanks for your patience guys.
Cheers
David
@pilou said:
And the search engine of Windows refind nothing on the 2015 where you have vizualizer working?
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Hi pbacot,
I noticed your pool water image had lots of fireflies ... the small bright white dots ... which means you must be using the Visualizer enhanced mode.
If you didn't already know there is a despeckle option which will remove them. They will however, return eventually if you let it render for many hours.
See attached image for how to turn on despeckle.
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The tutorial from visualizer shows a shaded car as png without background. However I keep having a gray background to all my renders. I've tried adjusting the background in styles and also checked the transparency button in visualizer but still I get gray backgrounds. Love visualizer sad to see it go
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Hi alexandercheyns,
Visualizer does not support the "styles" features of Sketchup. It always put a procedural sky in the background. I assume you are saving the image in png format. Pardon me if this is obvious but the alpha channel of that image file allows you to layer the foreground on to another background. You do need some compositing software like Photoshop or Gimp to specify the new background. Perhaps you could share an example rendered image.
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@unknownuser said:
You do need some compositing software like Photoshop or Gimp to specify the new background
Why not put a "false background" image in Sketchup it self ?
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Hi pilou,
Good thought but AFIK this feature doesn't exist in Visualizer.
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Something like this or anything else! (cylindric, hemispheric etc...
And input project any image on this sort of surface as background!
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Hi Pilou,
I didn't understand what you meant by "false background". In fact your "psyche" geometry would produce a nice limbo background with a complex shadow casting of the foreground object.
alexandercheyns,
Just to help clarify what you are asking about, can you post a link to the Visualizer tutorial you referred to. I assume it has something to do with the alpha channel and png files.
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Maybe i don't understant the first original problem!
I don't ever understand why there is not always an image with a problem asked! -
Have you an image of what is wanted ?
Does this resolve the problem?
If i put an image on this face, no shadows on it!
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Hi pilou,
Im pretty sure the original request was related to layering with an alpha channel but until the person chimes back it remains a mystery.
Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?
Also the cast shadow toggle is an interesting hidden gem in Visualizer which can be used to emit light from geometry in a limited fashion. It can take quite a while to render a noise free image. Here is a test image.
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@unknownuser said:
Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?
Sketchup + Visualizer + Key "PrintScreen"
and copy the screen inside my old PhotoImpact 1992-2000!!!
(the program that I have only bought)for the arrows and text or any retouch!
This last one was terrific : we can even make web site with it!
The incredible thing is that quasi all functions are working today!
Some times i add effects with the free Fotor!
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@willanie said:
Hi pilou,
Im pretty sure the original request was related to layering with an alpha channel but until the person chimes back it remains a mystery.
Your diagram is very neat. What software do you use to make such illustrations ... sketchup?
Also the cast shadow toggle is an interesting hidden gem in Visualizer which can be used to emit light from geometry in a limited fashion. It can take quite a while to render a noise free image. Here is a test image.
Woah I never knew that.
Ok I tested it out. Deselecting "Cast shadow" does nothing. However if you deselect "Receive Shadows" then that component starts to emit light.
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oops sorry about that I meant receive shadow ... which lets the sun and sky light effect the object regardless of any other geometry in the scene
the sun/sky time of day and orientation relative to the sun still effects the brightness which makes it not quite a pure emmisive surface but still kind of neat -
I think Pilou means a sort of billboard backdrop. His example seems to also show lighting objects which, of course don't apply. Far easier to add the background image in PS or GIMP, because in SU you are dependent on the sun lighting the backdrop and the limits of image resolution.
Attached is an example using Oli's tree line texture backdrop, as a billboard object in SketchUp.
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