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  • W Offline
    willanie
    last edited by 12 May 2015, 20:33

    Hi Driven,

    Interesting suggestions, but I don't think they are a better workaround then rendering Visualizer twice.
    In fact, making an alpha channel outside of Visualizer may result in some edge mismatch.
    The creation of the alpha channel in Visualizer was refined to the point where compositing in paint software like Gimp or Photoshop works without any edge fringing.

    willanie

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      driven
      last edited by 12 May 2015, 21:15

      the color by layer ones is a Visualizer export...

      Layer setting 'Color by Layer'
      Vis setting export png trans background...
      re-done as I hadn't locked to SU...
      only the window glass still shows...
      EDIT:
      this is color by layer, use view size 2d png export non-transparent bg...for comparison...

      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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        willanie
        last edited by 12 May 2015, 21:49

        Hi Driven,

        I didn't think of using color by layer set to black.
        Problem is, this mode doesn't effect the background sky in Visualizer.
        So you could get something like the attached image.
        Even if you use Visualizer a second time, as I suggested, could potentially result in edge fringing. Visualizer processes a saved image with alpha to minimize edge fringing and this would not happen in a de-speckled render.

        willanie


        color by layer set to black

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          vidy
          last edited by 13 May 2015, 01:08

          @willanie said:

          Hi Driven,

          Interesting suggestions, but I don't think they are a better workaround then rendering Visualizer twice.
          In fact, making an alpha channel outside of Visualizer may result in some edge mismatch.
          The creation of the alpha channel in Visualizer was refined to the point where compositing in paint software like Gimp or Photoshop works without any edge fringing.

          willanie

          Got it Willanie, thanks for your information

          Regards,
          VD

          still so much to learn..

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            pilou
            last edited by 13 May 2015, 08:01

            It's not a so hard work to render twice! πŸ˜‰

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              willanie
              last edited by 10 Jun 2015, 15:47

              An example of Visualizer1.3 enhanced mode.
              This mode can often result in very bright single pixels also known as "fireflies" caused by an extremely bright light source like the sun.
              The despeckle noise reduction feature is there to help remove them.
              The back wall in this scene is assigned a material with a name that includes the word "mirror" for sharp reflections.

              dance_studio_annotateEN.png

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                pbacot
                last edited by 10 Jun 2015, 18:00

                Thanks for the notes Wilanie

                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  vidy
                  last edited by 11 Jun 2015, 01:02

                  Nice one Willanie..

                  still so much to learn..

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                    willanie
                    last edited by 15 Jun 2015, 18:09

                    another example ... this one took about 35 minutes to render on my desktop
                    a couple of the fireflies weren't removed by the despeckle mode but it still looks pretty nice
                    le_gia.0840.png

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                      cotty
                      last edited by 15 Jun 2015, 18:15

                      Yes, very nice!
                      πŸ‘

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                        pbacot
                        last edited by 11 Oct 2015, 18:23

                        I looked at the enhanced material settings. Which is best for car paint? The metal settings are too metallic. Plastic doesn't quite make it.

                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                          driven
                          last edited by 11 Oct 2015, 20:34

                          you can link them together for different effects e.g. shiny_plastic, shiny-tile...

                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                          • Mike LuceyM Offline
                            Mike Lucey
                            last edited by 11 Oct 2015, 21:51

                            I've been using Visualizer since it first launched. It suits me as I'm not really into spending any time on producing renders. I was disappointed when they announced that they would not be further developing the application but at least they made the current version free to use.

                            A couple of days ago I came across AmbientOcclusion for SketchUp http://www.ambientocclusion-sketchup.com

                            Its much like Visualizer, couple of clicks and after a few minutes you have a render. It also offers the option of rendering in the SketchUp viewport which I rather like as against rendering in a window. After seeing the first in-viewport render I thought that Trimble SketchUp should buy this app and include it in SketchUp Pro ........ just a thought. It definitely would distance SketchUp Pro from SketchUp Make!

                            There are two versions of AmbientOcclusion, Lite at $39 which only produces mono renders and Pro at $89 that does color, textures and depth-of-field effects.

                            Its expensive when compared to Visualizer, originally at $20 and now free, but I think the output quality is far superior to Visualizer in far less time, just a few minutes for me in most cases, quite impressive.

                            I have emailed the developers and they advise that they have lighting among other features on the 'to do' list. Hopefully they will keep improving the plugin without making it bloated.

                            Here is a Visualizer and AmbientOcclusion render of a little project I'm working on. Both renders were done in around 3 minutes and I spent zero time fiddling around with settings.


                            Vizualizer Output


                            AmbientOcclusion Output

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                              willanie
                              last edited by 11 Oct 2015, 23:40

                              I do like the added shape detail provided by the ambient occlusion shading. Can you get reflections?

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                                pbacot
                                last edited by 12 Oct 2015, 01:01

                                Thanks, I thought so but I wasn't sure it was doing anything. I'll experiment more. I need reflections for exterior shots. I'd like to see more AO than Visualizer but not quite happy with what I see in the AO 4 SU app. If I want to spend more time, I go to Twilight.

                                BTW with the poor materials window on Mac Sketchup, it is still slow and tedious just to change material names to try different effects.

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                • Mike LuceyM Offline
                                  Mike Lucey
                                  last edited by 12 Oct 2015, 01:05

                                  @willanie said:

                                  I do like the added shape detail provided by the ambient occlusion shading. Can you get reflections?

                                  I think so Will. Attached is an image from the AO site which shows reflections. I have not tried it out yet.


                                  house1-bw.jpg

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                                    pilou
                                    last edited by 20 Nov 2015, 02:58

                                    For SU 2016 (Visualizer yet installed on SU 2015)
                                    Installation don't work directly ! 😲
                                    (I suppose that is working directly if Visualizer don't yet installed!)

                                    A little trick! (For Windows 8.1 - I don't know Mac's world! )
                                    Make this new folder Plugins (don't existing because 2016 is new and empty)
                                    and copy past from the ProgramData / SU 2015:
                                    Folder ImaginationVisualizer and file ImaginationVisualizer.rb
                                    That's all! πŸ€“

                                    You must have that! πŸ˜„

                                    Viz2016.jpg

                                    Works like a charm! 😎 And works in duplication 2015 2016 ! πŸ€“
                                    viz2.jpg

                                    Frenchy Pilou
                                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                    My Little site :)

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                                      driven
                                      last edited by 20 Nov 2015, 03:36

                                      on a mac just move /copy the folder and file into the User plugin folder and it works fine...

                                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                        willanie
                                        last edited by 20 Nov 2015, 06:41

                                        Great! ... I was wondering if making it work for 2016 was as easy as that.
                                        thanks

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                                          pbacot
                                          last edited by 24 Nov 2015, 05:25

                                          Has anyone had luck with pool water for enhanced materials? With a texture you get ripples, but the pool water only comes out very dark blue for me, not good for swimming pools. "Water" texture under NON enhanced textures looks OK but no ripples.

                                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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