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      willipop
      last edited by

      It's what I tried previously πŸ˜„ Also I used the artisan's selection tool to select the faces with less vertex and I applied the subdivide tool too add some more vertex.

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      • olisheaO Offline
        olishea
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        Here is another. Possibilities are endless really. I intersected the large cones too much though, they don't need to be made up into quads like that, I just wasn't thinking and it causes a more square-like shape than the smaller cones. All rectifiable though.

        I didn't attempt to convert the second mesh (with 2 artisan iterations) to tubes because my xbox isn't going to play itself tonight! πŸ˜†


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        • olisheaO Offline
          olishea
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          This is what I meant about the larger cones....the mesh on the right performs better than the mesh on the left which had unnecessary vertices. The larger cones are now rounded as opposed to slightly squared.


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            willipop
            last edited by

            Very cool πŸ˜„

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            • olisheaO Offline
              olishea
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              ....and if you want to use less poly than tubes; try using Multi Face Offset plugin to the mesh and then TIG's JointPushPull to the new offset faces.

              I suggest using softened edges to this quad-sectioned profile to give the illusion of rounded thread. If the thread is very small it won't even be noticeable that you are using a quad to make the profile.

              [EDIT] although it seems to cause some other unwanted faces here and there, may be best off sticking to tubes after all. 😳 πŸ˜†


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              • pyrolunaP Offline
                pyroluna
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                Guys if you're making those tubes merely to create accurate shadows on the ground... you know you can switch on 'from edges' in the shadow window, right?

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  Don't know about the others but my tubes are for the look of the net, not to create the shadows.

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                  • olisheaO Offline
                    olishea
                    last edited by

                    @pyroluna said:

                    Guys if you're making those tubes merely to create accurate shadows on the ground... you know you can switch on 'from edges' in the shadow window, right?

                    haha I didn't even know you could do that! πŸ˜†

                    oli

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                    • BoxB Offline
                      Box
                      last edited by

                      One thing to note on that Oli is that the shadows produced by those edges won't show in all renders.

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                      • olisheaO Offline
                        olishea
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                        @box said:

                        One thing to note on that Oli is that the shadows produced by those edges won't show in all renders.

                        Oh I know, but sounds like the OP wants to keep things in sketchup anyway. Either way, I'd still use the tubes, they just look better.

                        Some render engines can render lines where and you can change their thickness, Twilight for one can do it. But they won't look tubular, just flat lines with no texture. And it still won't render the lines' shadows.

                        So yeah, model the tubes! πŸ˜†

                        I forgot to mention....if you delete the topmost face of the net proxies, it won't produce any triangles in the mesh. You see how my mesh has triangles towards the top of the cones? Shouldn't be like that; I just forgot to delete the top face (which is barely apparent because it's so small). Hope that makes sense, just trying to keep the mesh as tidy and as low poly as possible.

                        oli

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                          willipop
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                          I'm getting it ! πŸ˜„


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                          • olisheaO Offline
                            olishea
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                            Looking GREAT!!

                            Couple of tips....see attachment.

                            I know it doesn't matter so much for this project, as you only need the lines....but you see how your mesh is mixed up with front faces and reversed faces? If you right click any front face and click Orient Faces, it will make every face the same. You can do this while it's still in the proxy stage or even after you have subdivided, but I would recommend doing it at the proxy stage for speed. It's just good practice.

                            You see the cone on the bottom left of your image? How it has a strange base? This is because you have a face within the cone before you subdivided.

                            Look underneath your model and delete any internal faces within the cone. Also delete the topmost face of the cone if there is a face there; your nets may converge to a point though, I can't quite tell from the image. If they converge to a point then forget what I've said regarding this. πŸ˜†

                            There is also a very helpful plugin called RemoveInnerFaces.rb that I use ALL the time before a subdivision. It's always good practice to manually inspect your proxy before a subdivision though, as it's easy to miss a hidden face inside your geometry. πŸ˜‰

                            Great progression in your work! πŸ‘


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                              willipop
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                              Thx you Oli ! I did realize about the reverse faces... It's my first test ! I really like artisan it's soo fun to play with it πŸ˜„πŸ™‚

                              About the innerfaces... I hide the faces and then I select the edges and run lines to tube so I can delete the faces after.. Is it what you mean ?

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
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                                Seems Protrude can make easily this! πŸ˜‰

                                Just draw the planar form ! πŸ’š

                                http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=14939&t=1

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                  olishea
                                  last edited by

                                  @willipop said:

                                  About the innerfaces... I hide the faces and then I select the edges and run lines to tube so I can delete the faces after.. Is it what you mean ?

                                  No.

                                  You see the base of the cone? How it looks distorted, unlike the other cones? It's because there is a face inside the cone. It causes the subdivided mesh to act strange.

                                  See this as an example:


                                  Above The Mesh


                                  Under The Mesh

                                  oli

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                                    willipop
                                    last edited by

                                    Got it πŸ˜„ I actually deleted these innerfaces πŸ˜‰

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                                      willipop
                                      last edited by

                                      @ Pilou : What is this exactly ? πŸ˜„

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                                        willipop
                                        last edited by

                                        Wow I will try it right away πŸ˜„ is it sk2014 friendly ? I like your afro btw πŸ˜‰ De quelle rΓ©gion es-tu ? πŸ˜„

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                                        • pilouP Offline
                                          pilou
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                                          One of the more funny plugin! 😎
                                          Select any face(s) of something and at each click you will obtain an automatic result of generations of new level of extrusions! β˜€
                                          A sort of "greeble"
                                          A must to try! πŸ˜„

                                          • Color by z and Random Painter by Chris Fullmer πŸ’š

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                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            For the 2014 I don't know, i use only very old versions 6,7,8 πŸ’š
                                            Pour le pays tout est dans ma signature! πŸ˜„
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                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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